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Comment by davidguetta

3 days ago

Who shoot exactly ? i don't understand anything (not sarcasm, i'm in the airport and can't make sense of the vid)

The guy was filming ice, they started pushing some other person so he got in between them. They threw him to the ground, where three men pinned his hands down. Another pulled out his pepper spray can, then started beating the victim in the face repeatedly.

At the same time, a fifth agent pats him down. He finds a gun (legally purchased and the MN police have said he was permitted to carry). They remove the firearm and walk away.

Then one of the officers yells "he has a gun" and shoots him point blank. Then another officer fires, which looks to kill him and he drops face-down and the officers back away. Finally, one more pulls out his firearm and puts 9 into the back of the victim's corpse - guaranteeing he can't be saved

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  • > Police officers cannot be continuously getting into fights with people, especially armed people

    That is their job.

  • ICE are not police officers, or even traditional law enforcement officers.

    • Please note, a question does not imply an opinion.

      Could you provide a reference for them not being federal law enforcement officers (specifically immigration law)?

      I've seen this mentioned several times, but can only find evidence that they are. For example Cornel Law [1]:

      > The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is a federal law enforcement agency under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

      > CE’s primary mission is to promote homeland security and public safety through criminal and civil enforcement of federal laws governing border control, customs, trade, and immigration.

      Even PBS is reporting them as such [2]:

      > Federal law gives immigration agents the authority to arrest and detain people believed to have violated immigration law.

      > "All law enforcement officers, including ICE, are bound by the Constitution," said Alexandra Lopez, managing partner of a Chicago-based law firm specializing in immigration cases.

      And USC 1357 seems to make this indisputable [3], but IANAL.

      All the sources I could find that say they aren't law enforcement are questionable, and aren't related to interpreting law.

      [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/immigration_and_customs_enfo...

      [2] https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/what-legal-rights-do-you...

      [3] https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1...

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