Comment by eudamoniac
3 days ago
When you're in a high stress physical altercation with obscured vision, and you see a gun in your opponent's pants, and then a hand on that gun, and then the gun being pulled out of the pants by that hand, all happening quickly in succession, you may believe in that split second that you are in a mortal situation. These are not well trained soldiers here.
I'm not defending them, just guessing at the explanation. I'm operating from the assumption that the ICE agent did not randomly with absolutely no cause decide to execute a guy; probably something made him believe in that moment that he should shoot. You can see from the other, closer video that he very suddenly draws his weapon, as if in reaction to something.
Edit: someone else ITT theorized that the disarming agent ND'd which caused another agent to shoot in reaction. That's also pretty plausible.
I've yet to hear how someone with their hands restrained and forced on the ground managed to get their hands on their gun. Can you please educate me?
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Why do you think it’s so important to get in this guy’s head, and to give him this graceful excuse of “maybe he just panicked?”
Obviously someone panicked. We can clearly see they did not line them up and actually shoot them with a firing squad.
But what is the point of this thought exercise? Where does it lead? To more “training” for the agents?
The whole thing is illegitimate and immoral. There is no need to engage with what was going on in the guy’s head. We are way, way too far past that point.
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I'm responding to your earlier post, claiming that the victim indeed did put his hands on his gun. I ask you again, provide that evidence that you claim to have seen in the video.
The strongest interpretation of your posts is that you know exactly what you're doing, because you've done it multiple [1] times [2] now [3].
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46515813
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Your comments are the only level headed ones remaining since so many comments have been flagged and removed. These knee jerk reactions are not helpful and tend to be wrong.