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Comment by direwolf20

12 hours ago

There's one. It's Signal. I keep telling people to use it and they keep not, because people are less likely to do things if they've been told they should do them.

To add a datapoint I can share mine: it's me who would be in a position to bootstrap the change in my circles, but I wouldn't use or recommend Signal as Whatsapp replacement until the core features are on parity, including history backups, which have always been a lagging userstory for Signal.

I think they have different (and somewhat opposing, even) targets, Signal wants to be extremely privacy protecting, and it's a disservice to their goals to sell them as a replacement for WhatsApp, because they're not.

  • BTW Signal has a backup feature in the client (beta). Though can't say more about how it works since its a feature I do not need.

Signal is so much worse than WhatsApp from a UX perspective. Backup sync forces you to allow background permissions (WhatsApp doesn't), you have to set and get nagged to enter a PIN every few weeks (WhatsApp doesn't), there's no transcription for audio messages (WhatsApp has that for some languages), the desktop app loses its connection if you don't open it ever few weeks (WhatsApp works fine), etc.

If you want people to switch, recommend Telegram.

  • >If you want people to switch, recommend Telegram.

    Why would people switch from always-end-to-end encrypted group chats to never-end-to-end encrypted group chats?

  • My circle switched to Signal because we are concerned about tech bros and a fascist America.

    Boosting Russia is not the solution.

Without interoperability with the chat platform all the regular people are already using, that's always going to be an uphill battle.

I use Signal to communicate with other tech folks, but good luck convincing your dentist/doctor/etc to send reminders on signal instead of WhatsApp.