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Comment by brucehoult

1 month ago

Atlantis should come in with similar performance per clock to an Apple M1, but probably at around 2.5 GHz instead of 3.2 GHz.

That's close enough to be unnoticeable for most people for most uses, at least on the CPU side. It'll come down more to how well things such as GPUs and video CODECs are supported.

There are plenty of people using M1 or similar e.g. Zen 2 machines today with no inclination to upgrade. They are more than good enough.

No, the 2.5GHz are for SFX4. Atlantis is on TSMC 12nm and (as I learned yesterday) will run at about 1.5GHz: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061659786023813170/1...

So Ascalon should have M1 IPC, at half the frequency.

  • It really doesn't matter much. The Titan and K3 are Core 2 performance, the K1 and JH7110 are more like Pentium III.

    A 1.5 GHz Ascalon is still going to be ... I don't know ... Skylake level? More than enough for a usable modern desktop machine and a huge leap over even machines we'll start to have delivered 3 or 4 months from now.

    Hopefully it will be affordable. As in Megrez or Titan prices, not Pioneer.

    • The K3 is launched now.

      Single core performance is about what you say. But multi-core performance is much better. The K3 scores higher than a 2017 Macbook Air for multi-core on Geekbench 6.

      And the K3 can take 32 GB of DDR5 and run a decent-sized LLM, which is not something you are doing on an a 5-10 year old laptop. In addition to the vector instructions, the built-in video codec acceleration and hypervisor stuff make for quite a modern feature-set.

      The K3 is still too slow to be a desktop system for most people but there are some of us who would already be ok with it.

      As for pricing, it is hard to find info. But it seems like around $200 may be possible for the Jupiter2.

      https://milkv.io/jupiter2

      The Framework 13 K3 mainboard will be more:

      https://deepcomputing.io/dc-roma-risc-v-mainboard-iii-unveil...

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