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Comment by KolmogorovComp

5 hours ago

> Social media apps? The iOS variants of those apps are afaik in no way better. What else is there, where is the advantage?

This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly.

Sure the best way would be for people not to use them, but if you "have" to, then it's better to use those on IOS.

>This is incorrect. The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly.

Source?

  • Here’s one example:

    > Meta devised an ingenious system (“localhost tracking”) that bypassed Android’s sandbox protections to identify you while browsing on your mobile phone — even if you used a VPN, the browser’s incognito mode, and refused or deleted cookies in every session.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44235467

In what manner do they extract less data

  • Unless you're running Graphene or a similar security minded distro the sandboxing isn't very good. Okay let's be honest it's fairly abysmal at preventing fingerprinting. It could almost be accused of not even bothering to try.

    But one example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43518866

    • Even with graphene I don't believe it mitigates much as far as apps collecting data. The idea for more privacy is you run open source apps instead that just don't collect data.

      AFAIK Graphene is oriented towards strong device security with privacy as more of a side effect.

    • >Unless you're running Graphene or a similar security minded distro the sandboxing isn't very good

      Grapheneos doesn't prevent the installed apps fingerprinting you linked either.

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I agree with the thrust of the GP comment but:

> The IOS versions of social media apps extract way less data from the device than on android, and is thus more privacy friendly.

I seriously doubt this. I agree that this is the perception but anyone working in the mobile space on both platforms for the past ~2 years will know Google is a lot more hard nosed in reviewing apps for privacy concerns than Apple these days (I say this negatively, there is a middle ground and Apple is much closer to it - Google is just friction seemingly in an attempt to lose their bad reputation).

  • It would be nice if the app stores offered different levels of requirements. Let the market decide how much it cares about privacy (and security, and ...), reduce the friction for developers who want to do a particular thing, and give end users more confidence in the entire system.

You'd think this would be more known! I feel like general sentiment says the opposite is the case.. What can one point to in the future to show what you are saying here?