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Comment by AngryData

5 hours ago

Lol no, guns don't just magically go off when in a holster. Yes mechanical failures do happen, but it requires very specific types of impact in very specific ways that cannot happen when in a holster and are so rare as to happen on decade timescales with tens of thousands of the gun. Also I saw zero evidence of that guys gun going off in the video, the first shot heard is the shot coming out of the ICE goon's gun that he is pointing at that guy, who then also mag dumps him while he is on the ground.

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rlt  4 hours ago

The Sig Sauer P320, which is what Alex Pretti had, is notorious for unintentionally discharging. Various law enforcement agencies and militaries have stopped using it for that reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P320

  • AngryData  3 hours ago

    "the firearm may discharge when it is dropped and the back of the slide hits the ground at a 33-degree angle"

    That is pretty hard to accomplish while its in a holster unless the guy was suplexed and his entire spine turned to jello giving the gun a multi-foot uncushioned drop.

    "misfire was due to "a partial depression of the trigger by a foreign object combined with simultaneous movement of the slide"

    Which is irrelevant when in a shielded holster like this guy has.

    On top of all this, even had the gun went off, which I have found zero evidence to support, how would that guy know who's gun went off to start with? Guns don't light up with a bunch of LEDs to show you it has been fired. If you aren't staring directly at the gun, which isn't really possible in the scenario that played out, you wouldn't know whos gun went off. And even if someone was staring at the gun and saw it go off, how does a holstered gun that nobody is holding represent any sort of threat? You think the guy is controlling his gun with his mind powers?

    I don't even know why im bother argueing with you because this entire thing is ludicrous. I find it hard to believe you have watched any of the video of the incident at all and came to this conclusion.

    • rlt  2 hours ago

      If it misfired it likely misfired as it was being taken, not while in his holster.

      If you’re detaining someone who has a gun and a gun goes off it’s incompetent, maybe negligent, but not murder to react by shooting the guy who had the gun.

      I don’t think anyone can draw definitive conclusions from the videos.

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