Comment by Capricorn2481
2 days ago
> Please, please, please tone it down. Really. This is the amplification I’m talking about. You say “I don’t hate you” and then spew a bunch of hate at me
Listen, I'm sorry if I caused you emotional distress, and I can tell you're a kind person, but I wish you led with this comment, because it's a very revealing response. If my comment was "hateful" to you, I don't think you should lecture people on their emotional responses to these situations.
I am going to reiterate that the victims of ICE are begging people to share their stories.
> I am going to reply to all of this in a chunk. And I want to picture in your mind that I’m someone in your life that you respect (friend, neighbor, loved one, doesn’t matter).
I'm talking to you exactly how I talk to anyone in my life that would say what you're saying. Just because I correctly pointed out the impact of your rhetoric, that doesn't mean I'm "spewing hate at you." I'm disappointed in you. I hear a lot worse from people I'm related to.
> This is a very important distinction to make. It’s the difference between giving your daughter advice for “don’t dress like that when you go out, there are a lot of dangerous people out there” and saying “it was her fault she was raped”. The former is practical advice you might give to someone you care about, and the latter is the abhorrent victim blaming you’re casually accusing me of doing.
No man. Open your eyes. You are doing the latter. Renee is dead, and you have 1 sentence condoning ICE, and multiple paragraphs explaining what SHE should have done differently. That is exactly like saying "If she dressed differently, this may not have happened." You have more energy for what she did than the categorically disproportionate escalation of violence.
I wouldn't tell my daughter what to wear, and limit her freedoms, because I know that wouldn't stop her from being harmed. I would tell her to be with people she trusts and lean on her friends for safety.
> One of those things that could have happened differently is for people to choose a different avenue than directly interacting with the armed men
That's great that you're able to do that. Some people do not have that choice. I hope you have a good day.
> No man. Open your eyes. You are doing the latter. Renee is dead, and you have 1 sentence condoning ICE, and multiple paragraphs explaining what SHE should have done differently
I am simply at a loss for words.
This comment thread is probably the least worst in the entire comment section of this post, and it’s still fucking awful. I’m being called someone who’s condoning ice because of my expression that I don’t want to see people die.
Others are being called literal nazis for expressing similar thoughts.
The nuance between “I don’t want people to die” and “I condone ICE” is the exact thing I was saying is getting thrown out.
This is precisely what I predicted would happen from the start, and the exact reason I flagged it. I don’t regret flagging at all, and this is just further proof that I will continue to flag similar threads where people like you lose their empathy and hurl accusations like these around.
If you have loved ones that are victims of ICE and are begging for people to share their story, I don’t think the HN comment section is what they have in mind. Please send it to a proper news outlet.