Comment by fooker
5 hours ago
By lines of code, almost by an order of magnitude.
Some of the code is janky garbage, but that’s what most code it. There’s no use pearl clutching.
Human engineering time is better spent at figuring out which problems to solve than typing code token by token.
Identifying what to work on, and why, is a great research skill to have and I’m glad we are getting to realistic technology to make that a baseline skill.
Well, you will somehow have to turn that 'janky garbage' into quality code, who will do that then?
You don't really have to.
For most code, this never happens in the real world.
The vast majority of code is garbage, and has been for several decades.
So we should all work to become better programmers! What I'm seeing now is too many people giving up and saying "most code is bad, so I may was well pump out even worse code MUCH faster." People are chasing convenience and getting a far worse quality of life in exchange.
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This type of comments get downvoted the most on HN but it is absolute truth, most human-written code is “subpar” (trying to be nice and not say garbage). I have been working as a contractor for many years and code I’ve seen is just… hard to put it into words.
so much discussion here on HN which critiques “vibe codes” etc implies that human would have written it better which is vast vast majority is simply not the case
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> who will do that then?
the next version of LLMs. write with GPT 5.2 now, improve the quality using 5.3 in a couple months; best of both worlds.