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Comment by jdthedisciple

8 hours ago

Just leaving this here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Fun fact, the clergy was a crucial part of the coup, backed by CIA. The same people in power now, btw.

  • Fun fact, the same people who preach democracy to you all day,

    plotted and went about to oust one of the most democratically legitimate leaders of his country by night.

    Let that sink in for a moment.

    • I am almost sure that every single person who plotted the 1953 coup is dead. Maybe one of them survives somewhere aged 103 and no longer knowing their name.

      Should Macron be judged by what Napoleon III. (or for that matter, I.) did? Surely there is some kind of continuity between those French heads of state, they even fly the some colors and sit in the same palace.

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I never understood why some people get so fixated on one event in 1953, as if nothing else mattered after that.

Sure, it had a nontrivial effect. But it also happened in a time when Stalin and Churchill were still alive, there were 6 billion people fewer on the planet and the first antibiotics and transistors barely entered production. Korea was poorer than Ghana etc.

It is 2026, three generations have passed, and not everything can be explained and excused by a 1953 event forever. But it is convenient for autocracy advocates in general.

It reminds me of the worship of the Great Patriotic War in Russia. Again, as if nothing that happened later matters.