{"id":46777941,"user":"Alifatisk","time":1769509051,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Is the country falling apart? So many extreme events is happening over there.","comments":[{"id":46780647,"user":"tempodox","time":1769525111,"time_ago":"9 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46757822","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":0,"url":"item?id=46780647"},{"id":46778032,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769509597,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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Doesn’t more and more countries fall into the enemies category as Trump is ruining international relationships?","comments":[{"id":46778121,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769510058,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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What did he get out of the Greenland deal that the US didn’t have Jan 19, 2025?","comments":[{"id":46778252,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769510790,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I am not the NATO chief.","comments":[{"id":46778619,"user":"koonsolo","time":1769513512,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Then tell us what powers does the Dutch NATO chief has to make a deal in name of Greenland and Denmark.

Trump got empty hands, he got totally played by the nice words of Rutte.

Edit: Your conversation is really mind boggling:

"Trump got a great deal on Greenland!"

"What deal?"

"How would I know?!?!?!"","comments":[{"id":46778768,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769514689,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

It is not mind boggling if you don't manipulate quotes to fit for your narrative.","comments":[{"id":46779531,"user":"koonsolo","time":1769519667,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Nice way of avoiding the main question: What deal? There is no new deal between Greenland/Denmark and US.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":7,"url":"item?id=46779531"},{"id":46779713,"user":"piva00","time":1769520821,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

It is mind boggling how you keep trying to deflect away given your narrative.

> Trump got a standing ovation at Davos and got a deal for Greenland

And you don't know what is the deal, at all, so how can you base your entire argument in something you simply do not know? You don't know, you simply do not know.","comments":[{"id":46780000,"user":"koonsolo","time":1769522464,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I'm confident to go a step further and say there is no deal.

Greenland and Denmark weren't present to make a deal.

And to quote Trump: "Well, the deal is going to be put out pretty soon and we'll see. It's right now a little bit in progress, but pretty far along." (from https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W_UE7h3nTmQ)

The deal that is "now a little bit in progress", sounds to me like there is no deal.","comments":[{"id":46783681,"user":"muwtyhg","time":1769536764,"time_ago":"6 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

We have.... concepts of a deal.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":9,"url":"item?id=46783681"}],"comments_count":1,"level":8,"url":"item?id=46780000"}],"comments_count":2,"level":7,"url":"item?id=46779713"}],"comments_count":4,"level":6,"url":"item?id=46778768"}],"comments_count":5,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46778619"}],"comments_count":6,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46778252"}],"comments_count":7,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778172"},{"id":46778337,"user":"WickyNilliams","time":1769511321,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

> He is incredibly good at manipulating public perception to change opinions and get what he wants

Sorry but you are suffering from some kind of delusion here. He's not manipulating public perception in any way that is beneficial to him or the US. He's crashing his own public perception (which was already in the gutter to all but the sycophants and blind loyalists) and taking the US' reputation with him","comments":[{"id":46778454,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769512299,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

This is the one thing you shouldn't deny especially if you don't like Trump.

“There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.”\n― Lao Tzu","comments":[{"id":46778541,"user":"WickyNilliams","time":1769512992,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Oh I don't underestimate him. It's been obvious he's dangerous from day 1. But being dangerous does not preclude being (seen to be) a fool.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46778541"}],"comments_count":1,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46778454"}],"comments_count":2,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778337"},{"id":46778502,"user":"Martinussen","time":1769512702,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I think you are heavily underestimating the level of contempt he has built towards Americans and the US in the last month or two. I don't think Europeans, certainly not Scandinavians, will forget this for decades. This isn't like some random normal boycott-type movement that goes viral, I legitimately think Americans are teetering on being persona non grata as a people unless they prove they've divorced themselves from the mess at home.

It might be manipulating people at home, but you're closer (still not close, obviously) to Russia than Sweden as far as a trustworthy business partner or ally now. We're suddenly not making any long term plans that rely on America or American companies where it's avoidable, I don't know if you understand how big of a shift that is.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778502"},{"id":46778240,"user":"mda","time":1769510721,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

He is not good at manipulating the public, almost everyone knows what he actually is (there is not much to know at this point anyway). They are not applauding him, they do it because they need US economy to keep things afloat they smile and shake hands because of that. He could be just saying random words or saying only profanities from start to finish, the outcome would be the same, they would still give a standing ovation with eyes rolling.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778240"},{"id":46778171,"user":"awesome_dude","time":1769510338,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Wait, everything ELSE was a "performance" but a (claimed) standing ovation was the real deal...?","comments":[{"id":46778221,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769510605,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

You can just watch the event.

Edit: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm24vjvy3n1o

"I was in the room when President Donald Trump entered and it's fair to say he got a good welcome from the crowd, certainly at the beginning. A standing ovation."","comments":[{"id":46787409,"user":"awesome_dude","time":1769550433,"time_ago":"2 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

The issue isn't whether or not there was a "standing ovation" - the issue is that you are framing anything you think of as vaguely negative as fake and anything that you think is vaguely positive as genuine.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46787409"},{"id":46779718,"user":"piva00","time":1769520902,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Because everyone knows how easy it is to play Trump, do a standing ovation and his ego is satisfied so it's easier to deal with him.

Exactly like you'd do with a toddler :)","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46779718"}],"comments_count":2,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46778221"}],"comments_count":3,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778171"},{"id":46778254,"user":"simgt","time":1769510812,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

> Trump got a standing ovation at Davos

Let's run the clap-o-meter.

- Trump: https://www.youtube.com/live/qo2-q4AFh_g?si=1dLbyqmpVH39KtY1...

- Carney: https://youtu.be/CQOr9FcSf-M?si=vb4Z9fSOewRyV_7S&t=1130","comments":[{"id":46779897,"time":1769521931,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"[deleted]","deleted":true,"comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46779897"}],"comments_count":1,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778254"},{"id":46778604,"time":1769513411,"time_ago":"12 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"[deleted]","deleted":true,"comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778604"},{"id":46778147,"user":"ilogik","time":1769510213,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

And all the people that died because of him, is that intended?","comments":[{"id":46778190,"user":"hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm","time":1769510479,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Who are all the people? Unfortunately for Trump, he doesn't control every trigger that gets pulled but now we are seeing de-escalation.","comments":[{"id":46779392,"user":"ilogik","time":1769518681,"time_ago":"11 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

How about these people? https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

After the previous public execution by ICE, Stephen Miller said they have federal immunity (which is a lie), and it led us to where we are now.

Trump is responsible for hiring these idiots.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46779392"}],"comments_count":1,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46778190"},{"id":46778163,"user":"neonsunset","time":1769510308,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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Trump did not got standing ovation, Carney got ovation. Trumps entourage tried to invoke standing ovation, but failed.

People were leaving and stopped paying attention during Trump speech. It was just ... bad.","comments":[{"id":46779672,"user":"koonsolo","time":1769520550,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I really love this clip: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W_UE7h3nTmQ

When the reporter asks: "Does it still include US having ownership of Greenland?"

Trump: "Um....eh...."

All this posturing and he ended up with nothing.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46779672"}],"comments_count":1,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46778267"},{"id":46778223,"user":"darig","time":1769510612,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

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