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Comment by ruined

1 day ago

conspiracy charges are a thing, and they'll only need a few examples of manifestly illegal interference.

it will be quite easy for a prosecutor to charge lots of these people.

it's been done for less, and even if the case is thrown out it can drag on for years and involve jail time before any conviction.

If they could arrest people for what they've been doing, they would have already arrested people. And they have arrested a few here and there for "assault" (things like daring to react when being shoved by an annoyed officer), but the thing that's really pissing DHS off is that the protesters and observers are not breaking the law.

  • Remember that most of the participants in J6 walked away and were later rounded up and arrested across the country once the FBI had collected voluminous digital and surveillance evidence to support prosecution.

    • The J6 insurrectionists committed real crimes, and it's very good that they were rounded up, but afaiu most of the evidence had to do with them provably assaulting officers, damaging property, and breaking into a government building. Not that they messaged other people when they were legally demonstrating before the Capital invasion.

      The real protection for the legal protesters and observers in MN is numbers. They can't arrest and control and entire populace.

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    • Fortunately for us (or really unfortunately for us) most of the competent FBI agents have been fired or quit, with the new bar simply being loyalty to the president.

      The FBI is weak now compared to what it was even two years ago.

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  • one person walking away from a police encounter doesn't mean police think that person did not break the law.

    prosecutors may take their time and file charges at their leisure.

    • That may be true in the abstract (although it doesn't matter if the cops think you're breaking the law. What matters is whether or not a judge does).

      However, neither Border patrol nor ICE have been exhibiting thoughtfulness or patience, so I doubt they're playing any such long game.

Conspiracy requires an agreement to commit an illegal act, and entering into that agreement must be intentional.