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Comment by smartmic

4 hours ago

And Void Linux. And Gentoo. And Alpine Linux. And Slackware. And others.

Systemd has recently added experimental support for musl libc, which should eventually allow Alpine to upgrade though

After over a decade of Debian, when I upgraded my PC, I tried every big systemd-based distro, including opensuse, which I wholly loathed. I finally decided on Void and feel at home as I did 20+ years ago when I began.

There are serious problems with the systemd paradigm, most of which I couldn't argue for or against. But at least in Void, I can remove network-manger altogether, use cron as I always have, and generally remain free to do as I please until eventually every package there is has systemd dependencies which seems frightfully plausible at this pace.

Void is as good as I could have wanted. If that ever goes, I guess it's either BSD or a cave somewhere.

I'm glad to see the terse questions here. They're well warranted.

  • How is systemd stopping you use cron?

    • systemd parses your crontab and runs the jobs inside on its own terms

      of course you can run Cron as well and run all your jobs twice in two different ways, but that's only pedantically possible as it's a completely useless way to do things.

    • Not stopping. Just clashing with that and a hundred other things that I never wanted managed by one guy. Systemd.timer, systemd.service, yes, trivial, but I don't catalog every thing that bothers me about systemd - I just stay away from it. There are plenty of better examples. So where ever I wrote 'stop', it should read hinder.