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Comment by mikkupikku

1 day ago

Protest votes are probably overstated, I think most of it comes down to people staying home. Everybody in America already knows what side they're on, and they either vote for that side or not at all. Virtually all political messaging is either trying to moralize your side or demoralize the other, to manipulate the relative ratios of who stays home on election day.

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dylan604  1 day ago

> I think most of it comes down to people staying home

Obama was able to get people motivated. Neither Biden nor Harris had anywhere near that motivating ability. I don't know that the Dems have anyone as motivating as Obama line up. The Dems seem to be hoping that enough people will be repulsed by the current admin to show up.

  • SV_BubbleTime  15 hours ago

    > Obama was able to get people motivated. Neither Biden nor Harris had anywhere near that

    How do you explain Biden getting so many more votes than Obama even while Trump improved with black and Hispanics over past Republican candidates?

  • mikkupikku  1 day ago

    Newsom is an extremely strong candidate. Vance has several critical vulnerabilities that can demoralize right wing voters if the election is handled properly, and the Republicans really don't have anybody else. Rubio maybe, but Rubio won't be able to get ahead of Vance.