Comment by zahlman
9 hours ago
> any opposition is a crime of impeding and obstruction
No; conspiracy to impede and obstruct is a crime.
If you are about to do something I don't want you to do, but which is lawful for you to do, 1A covers me saying "hey, don't do that". It does not cover me physically positioning myself in a way that prevents you from doing it. And if you happen to be an LEO and the thing you're about to do is a law enforcement action, it would be unlawful for me to adopt such positioning. It is unlawful even if I only significantly impede you.
And ICE are federal LEO.
Portland Ave at 32nd St E is a one-way two-lane road with a bike/bus lane. It was formerly a three-lane one-way road.
One of the victims was blocking half the low traffic road and intending for people to pass freely on the other half. The other was filming from a distance.
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Conspiracy to impede and obstruct criminal behaviour is not a crime, it's legitimate self-defence.
The fact that federal agents are breaking the law doesn't change that. At all.
In spite of what you've been told federal LEO are bound by the law.
Executing random bystanders on a whim, operating without visible ID, failing to allow congressional oversight of facilities, failing to give those captured access to a lawyer - among many, many others - all put this operation far outside of any reasonable claim to proportionality or legality.
> Conspiracy to impede and obstruct criminal behaviour is not a crime, it's legitimate self-defence.
The behaviour being impeded and obstructed is not criminal. It is, in fact, law enforcement.
> In spite of what you've been told federal LEO are bound by the law.
I have not been told otherwise, nor does my argument assume or require otherwise.
> Executing random bystanders on a whim
This objectively does not even remotely describe either killing, and I have seen no evidence for the other things. Nor can I fathom what "congressional oversight" you have in mind, nor why it would be legally necessary.
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