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Comment by watwut

13 hours ago

First you are lying. Second, noise is not an obstruction. It is ok and legal to produce whistles.

What is not legal is point guns at journalists, beat people who record you on the phones and shoot people in the back because they had phone in hand and you are frustrated. What is not legal is to throw pepper spray at people who are no threat. One gotta love the "they mass produce whistles" as a grave accusation while ICE men literally openly threaten to kill people who are no threat. Or kill them and then are proud of their murdering colleagues.

> I'm not mistaken in my understanding that Tim Walz is a Democrat, am I? The one making public speeches falsely claiming that ICE aren't LEO and encouraging "peaceful protest"

Yes, he had good speeches.

> without mentioning anything about obstruction of justice or resisting arrest?

Lol, heavily armed cowards jump at observer, 8 on one, there is no resistance and then they call it resisting arrest.

> For that matter, exactly what do you mean by "abolishing ICE"? Should it not be replaced? Should immigration law not be enforced? Should the USA allow everyone to reside within its borders who wishes to do so, with no barriers to entry?

ICE is basically a violent gang with impossible to reform culture. You dont hire gangmembers to do law enforcement. It needs to be abolished and people in it need to be banned from working in law enforcement.

> First you are lying.

Highlight something in my comment that you believe is untrue, and I'll be happy to prove it.

> Second, noise is not an obstruction. It is ok and legal to produce whistles.

I did not argue to the contrary. I argued that noise makes it harder for officers to do their lawful duty, because that lawful duty involves verbal communication.

> because they had phone in hand and you are frustrated.

That is not why they were shot.

> while ICE men literally openly threaten to kill people who are no threat.

Please show me where you think this has happened. The only threat to kill people I have heard came from a Florida sheriff, who specifically said that this would happen to people who "throw a brick, a firebomb, or point a gun at one of our deputies".

> and then are proud of their murdering colleagues.

Please show me where you think this has happened.

> heavily armed cowards jump at observer, 8 on one, there is no resistance and then they call it resisting arrest.

They are ordinarily armed, he was not an "observer" (as demonstrated by the fact that he was in the middle of the street and a car had to swerve to avoid him), there were not 8 of them, and there was very visible and prolonged resistance.

You do not appear to understand what "no resistance" looks like. When you are on the ground and under arrest, "no resistance" looks like not attempting to get up, and attempting to put your hands behind your back so that handcuffs can be applied. There is video of a protester in Texas doing this; no further harm came to him. This is not particular to ICE or to federal vs. state law enforcement, and not new. This is just how arrests work, and how they have worked, in the US, Canada and other places.