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Comment by 15155

13 hours ago

Invariably someone will shoot back with "citizen children of illegal immigrants."

Sure, that happens a lot despite Court orders to the contrary.

ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Guzman

* https://www.acluofnorthcarolina.org/press-releases/court-rec...

Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

  • How many other developed countries in the world allow tourists to unconditionally birth citizens?

    • allow to birth? Only God does that. US does entice tourists by granting citizenship to anybody born on US territory. If you don't like it - change the Constitution. If you aren't changing it, then you want it for some reason.

      Edit: to the commenter below - what "moral" has to do with the Constitution provision? I mean beside the general understanding that Constitution is a law and following law is in general a moral thing, and that US Constitution was generally an attempt to write a good moral thing.

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  • > ICE has also deported full adult citizens, eg: Pedro Guzman, Mark Lyttle, etc.

    Per your sources, these happened in 2007-2008, so that hardly seems relevant to the current discussion. Trump is not responsible for law enforcement overreaches that occurred under GWB.

    > Currently there's a running problem simply having access to the names and files of those that disappear into the ICE Gulag.

    What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.