Comment by kreetx
9 hours ago
The shooting part was the accident. Of course you draw and aim a gun if you're detaining someone who also has a gun.
9 hours ago
The shooting part was the accident. Of course you draw and aim a gun if you're detaining someone who also has a gun.
(to the sibling, mmustapic)
What I'm saying is that he did have a gun, this particular gun was taken away, then he was apparently reaching for something else, which may have been mistaken for a gun, hence the shot. Or, the officer fired at him for some other suspicion. Regardless, you don't have perfect information in a situation like this. The guy wasn't behaving peacefully either.
My suggestion would be to obey orders, don't bring weapons to protests, don't resist when you're being detained. And so on.
What order was he disobeying? They pepper sprayed him and dragged him to the flor, he didn't have a gun in his hands, no danger at all, so why shoot him? He wasn't grabbing anything, you see his hands are free in the video.
And not behaving peacefully (who would when you are pepper sprayed and are hitting you in the head) shouldn't (in a decent country) be a reason to be shot.
Or better, so that you can think about. Pretti was standing there filming. What should have he done to "obey"? What was his mistake before they pushed him? Before they sprayed him? Before they dragged him to the ground, back to the street? Before they hit him in the head? What should have he done to prevent being shot?
He was apparently grabbing something, which was said to be a phone.
I personally would have just been entirely still right from the moment the detainment process started.
I'd like to see you stay calm when you suddenly get peppersprayed directly in the face and wrestled to the ground.
Well, exactly. My recommendation would be not to carry a gun where there is law enforcement already there. Or if you do, don't resist capture.
I.e, I maintain that this was an accident. The police didn't want to shoot this person, nor did the person want to use his gun. But it appeared like that to both sides which then caused the event that followed.
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Oh man, so the police can just jump on you and get scared because you are grabbing a phone, and shoot you? Good luck with your life, you'll need it.
The police is just as human as you and me. This person was carrying one gun - he might have more weapons on him. He was also resisting the takedown while the gun was found.
You make it seem as this was just a random guy walking with a phone, and was shot.
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He didn't have a gun when he was shot, what are you talking about? He didn't even have a gun in his hand. Or you mean that you can accidentally shoot somebody who had a gun, at some point in the past?
I think you can shoot someone if you have reason to believe that somebody has a gun. In this particular occasion the guy did not have another gun.
(Hence I'm calling it an accident, where the police officer may be at fault. Though, other commentators saying it was cold blooded, a death sentence, deliberate, etc. is not true. Nor is generalizing this particular situation to changes in government type. These people really want to portray their political opponent as bad as they possibly can.)
> I think you can shoot someone if you have reason to believe that somebody has a gun
I need you to read this and really think about the words.
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