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Comment by otherme123

22 days ago

Last time I answer you, because at this point you are acting in bad faith:

Telefónica Audiovisual Digital SLU is suing, among others, TELEFÓNICA ESPAÑA S.A.U and TELEFÓNICA MÓVILES ESPAÑA S.A.U.. What do you think is going on there? Come on, you don't even have to be that smart: they are suing themselves to get a judge order that allows them to block the IPs. In fact, some of them are eagerly waiting for the judge permission to click the ban button the next second.

> You are getting this wrong. The judge isn't acting on their on initiative here, but because La Liga (together with Movistar+) sued the biggest ISPs in Spain.

The nerve you have. This is exactly what I was saying from the beginning: the ban is not something that comes from the state or the government. The ban is something that the ISPs are asking for, they would love to be able to do it legally without a judge intervention, but they need to get the OK from a jugde. In fact, Movistar/Telefonica never acknowleged the ban and claim technical difficulties, in fear of losing clients to ISPs that are not so aggresive banning the IPs.

The discussion here was if there are parallelisms between the Iran Internet blackout (state initiated and enforced) and Spain banning some Internet IPs during football matches due to piracy (private companies initiating and enforcing on their users), because some of you were painting Spain as some kind of 1984 state.

Your last part is FUD, and a slippery slope fallacy. There are ways to refuse to comply, for example not banning the IPs and then claiming technical difficulties to do so. In fact, that was what were doing all the ISPs that were requested at first to ban Cloudflare IPs: delay the ban for a couple of hours, the football match ended, and they did nothing claiming it was impossible to comply. No one was locked, forced to comply or summarily (you are not using this word correctly, because it means "without trial") executed. Week after week, they are not issuing the IP banning, and they still safe and sound.