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Comment by varjag

4 hours ago

Quite surprised about ID4 numbers. Ours in the shop a few times per year, and we often crack jokes about it with other owners.

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thyristan  4 hours ago

The report from the original article is not a general problem rate but more specific: TÜV does mandatory technical inspections every two years. In those inspections, only safety- and environment-critical problems are checked for, so e.g. brakes, rust on structural parts, high emissions, non-working lights. But there is a whole bunch of stuff that they don't check for, e.g. heating/cooling, GPS not working, doesn't charge/start sometimes, ...

So it's quite possible that both are true: Maybe ID4 has lots of non-safety and non-environment problems, so it is in the shop very often, but still rarely fails an official inspection.

  • varjag  4 hours ago

    A sample of one but ours did fail the inspection (suspension). It also experienced a complete shutdown of instrument panel on the motorway: not something you reproduce easily in a regular inspection but a pretty damn serious condition. Fail to unfold the mirrors/engage parking assistant or rearview camera happened dozens of times.

    None of other owners I spoke to were particularly happy with theirs either.

adamtulinius  4 hours ago

Oh I'm sure there's many faults on the VW (as well as Skoda, Audi and Seat) electric cars, but not in the "failing inspection" category apparently.

(I drive a Skoda Enyaq, so no particular shade meant towards the VW-group)

  • varjag  4 hours ago

    Yeah well, our ID.4 did fail its 4-year inspection, but that's not even the worst among the things it did.

    (It's charging on the parking lot right now, unlocked because central lock has failed)

tzs  2 hours ago

Assuming you are not an outlier, could it be VW has a low TÜV failure rate because they are in the shop often?

I have no idea what German auto shops do, but whenever I take my car in to a shop in the US for service (routine or otherwise) they generally include various inspections and adjustments to various things, including things that Google is telling me are part of the TÜV inspection.