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Comment by CGMthrowaway

11 hours ago

That's not how business works. The App Store in current form would not exist without all the collective investment that went into all of Apple's hardware, for instance.

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> That's not how business works. The App Store in current form would not exist without all the collective investment that went into all of Apple's hardware, for instance.

While technically true, this argument doesn't provide any merit to the discussion. The App Store backed purchase for the Patreon subscription would not exist at all without the creator's work and investment in creating their form of content.

In the absence of the App Store, the creator would still have access to their patrons via mobile web and payment via the methods already provided by Patreon. The app is merely a convenience - it's a hard sell that this convenience is worth 30% of the creator's revenue through the platform.

  • > The App Store backed purchase for the Patreon subscription would not exist at all without the creator's work and investment in creating their form of content.

    Both parties are getting the chance to set whatever price they want. Up to the market to resolve supply/demand equilibrium

    • Creators on Patreon are already loosely bound to the market of other creators. Not all creators are affected by this change.

      The app store payment cut harms only creators who have disproportionately high percentages of patrons that primarily consume their content from iPhones - a demographic that they have no control over.

      If they wish to increase their price to make up for this, they then are forced to risk turning away their other, non-iPhone-primary patrons. Notably, Patreon is forbidden by Apple from making this pricing scheme transparent and up-charging only iPhone users to keep the creator whole.

      The only party with power here is Apple - and they are using it to strongarm.

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