Comment by jobs_throwaway

> This is goalpost moving 101. The question isn't would a human driver also struggle but _would it be better_? You have zero data.

It is not moving the goalpost to say "so would a human". Comparison to human drivers is exactly the stated goalpost (and it should be).

> You have zero data.

Outrageously uninformed take. We have mountains of data that show Waymos in aggregate are safer drivers than humans.