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Comment by pjaoko

6 hours ago

Has it been proven that it "likely isn't real"?

How about: maybe some things lie outside of the purview of empiricism and materialism, the belief in which does not radically impact one's behavior so long as they have a decent moral compass otherwise, can be taken on faith, and "proving" it does exist or doesn't exist is a pointless argument, since it exists outside of that ontological system.

It's much harder to prove the non-existence of something than the existence.

  • Just show the concept either is not where it is claimed to be or that it is incoherent.

    • I say this as someone who believes in a higher being, we have played this game before, the ethereal thing can just move to someplace science can’t get to, it is not really a valid argument for existence.

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Before we start discussing whether it's "real" can we all agree on what it "is"? I doubt it.

The burden of proof lies on those who say it exists, not the other way around.

  • The burden of proof lies on whoever wants to convince someone else of something. in this case the guy that wants to convince people it likely is not real.