Comment by buckwheatmilk

If they were to retire gpt 4.1 series from API that would be a major deal breaker. For structured outputs it is more predictable and significantly better because it does not have the reasoning step baked in.

I've heard great things about the mixtral structured outputs capabilities but haven't had a chance to run my evals on them.

If 4.1 is dropped from API that's the first course of action.

Also 5 series doesn't have fine tuning capabilities and it's unclear how it would work if the reasoning step is involved