Comment by wolvoleo
20 hours ago
China probably. No I don't think it is better but at least their leadership is actually sane. Evil, but sane and predictable.
20 hours ago
China probably. No I don't think it is better but at least their leadership is actually sane. Evil, but sane and predictable.
Even the evil adjective starts to look debatable in contrast to what current hegemony is doing on its way down.
Apparently their worst offence so far was calmly outgrowing and out competing their peers while benefiting global consumers with he fruits of organized labor of their own society.
Iam sceptical whether china is more evil than the current and historic US. Both countries have commited atrocities but the US was way more involved "for their interests overseas". Maybe the western distrust towards china will make it a different power equilibrium.
If you think that's the worst offence then you should check the recent and past news more often.
What was the most grusome Chinese offence you learned about form the news recently?
Stop getting Chinese territory under your fishing boats! Leave immediately for correct and healthy harmony! Fires water cannon
As opposed to America who uses cruise missiles on fishing boats in a different continent?
Maoist protracted people's war has traditionally relied on being less of an asshole to the peasants than the enemy.
I was referring more to the millions of Uyghurs in political prisons and their overreaching surveillance of the population.
And I was just speaking of what I think about China, not saying the current US administration is any better. I don't think it will be there forever though.
Right the Uyghurs, a word we never knew before.
When faced with credible threat of islamic terror in their country China implemented some harsh, systemic ideas about what to do with it.
I'm sure if they just started two wars in the middle east instead the western community would be way more lenient towards them.
China did what it though was the correct thing and the west happily classified it as racism and religious persecution.
However when the pandemic came China had zero restraint towards applying harsh measures on the bulk of their population regardless of race and relligion. And while their solutions are harsh and possibly incorrect is it really unique on the global stage?
US, the shining city on the hill, when faced with a problem of having inadequate social support systems to help the more recent immigrants decided that it will try to build concentration camps on the teritorry of one of their closest vassals. This can't be correct or humane solution either.
And when it comes to surveillance, China is on the forefront, but US and UK closely follow. What's different is that China does their surveillance overtly and tries to make it socially useful. I don't for one second believe that technologically Palantir and such are more than one step behind.
I'm particularly annoyed that the US is for the people of Iran and not, like China, for the government of Iran. And the US putting secondary sanctions on Russian oil to starve Putin from Chinese and Indian oil revenues? Disgusting.
China wants but China won't. They lack the military capability of force projection that is the basis of the US dollar dominance, their currency cannot be used as a reserve/trading currency due to capital transfer controls (that have no sign of ever going away because otherwise everyone who has money in China will move it immediately out of the reach of the CCP), foreign investors have gotten very skeptical over the years regarding IP theft on one side and supply chain law issues (e.g. underage labor, 996 and modern slavery, environmental concerns) on the other, and on top of that China is getting rocked hard by the inevitable consequences of the one-child policy that is driving up labor costs, further reducing the attractivity for foreign investors.
China doesn’t need to project force. Economics might is sufficient.
Yes, they want Taiwan, but that’s a silly national pride thing. It would not really benefit them to take it by force.
And the US wants Greenland, Canada, random other countries here or there...
> Yes, they want Taiwan, but that’s a silly national pride thing. It would not really benefit them to take it by force.
We thought the same about Putin, and yet he went and invaded Ukraine.
We thought the same about Trump, and yet he went and abducted the president of a sovereign country.
Never underestimate nationalist BS or outright mental deficiency.
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