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Comment by ben_w

16 hours ago

> People don't quite realize how big a deal "invading" Greenland would have been. That's literally an act of war! What's next, occupying France? Saying that it's at all a possibility is far beyond any red line that the EU thought it would have to deal with.

Yes, absolutely, I agree.

Thing is, in the end he backed off, so the result was all talk. He TACOed.

For everyone's sake (including Americans'), I absolutely 100% want the EU to disentangle as much as possible and as fast as possible from the US so that we don't even feel the need to be polite to Trump in the future: he obviously sees the world as only predators to be scared of and prey to consume, so it's better for us (everyone, not just the EU) to become big and scary really fast so he doesn't even try anything.

If he were to invade (anywhere, not just Greenland), that place and their allies basically have two options: fight or die.

> Not only would the rest of the world ditch the USA, but the Democrats themselves would take the opportunity to publically announce that they do not recognize Donald Trump's government.

I wish, but humans aren't like that.

The Democrat leadership keep pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, and people are the same everywhere so an external threat is more likely to pull everyone together than to split them apart (same for everyone else is why the EU and Canada are warming, or at least thawing, their relationships with the rest of the world).

What might have happened before an invasion was enough Republicans finally kicking him out (with Democrat support), or a US military coup (I'd say 50% if it got that far, but with high uncertainty).

A military coup would also be a crossed Rubicon.

But the military don't like traitors, and betraying an ally by invading it is an act of treachery.

> Thing is, in the end he backed off, so the result was all talk. He TACOed.

But for a few days (and probably still now), many people considered it was a real possibility.

I don't think it matters whether the US meant it or not. What matters is whether the Europeans believed it or not. Trust is about belief.

  • I agree.

    I think I'm being misunderstood here.

    All the stuff you said, that's why I want to make sure we (Europeans) *don't* go "phew!"

    I think some of us might be doing that, which I think is bad for us.

No, the Democrats would do it precisely because of cynical human interest (they are like that). Donald Trump Republicans invading a Western nation plays right into their hands. They may as well just hand Gavin Newsom the next election. The overwhelming majority of US citizens do not approve of USA invading Greenland.