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Comment by lateforwork

1 day ago

The $45 pays for extra checks and scrutiny.

What are these checks and scrutiny and how are they applied in the time available? Given the time available is not great ("I'm on the next flight") and the amount of money is modest if humans are involved I'm intrigued to know what could be done that $45 would cover.

  • It's a database lookup that takes 5-15 minutes once you get to an available officer, but then depending on what it returns you may need additional screening, which will also need to wait for someone available.

    That's why if you don't have an ID, you should get to the airport at least an hour earlier than otherwise (already accounting for long security lines), and more during peak travel times. If you get slowed down, you're going to miss your flight. They're not going to speed it up for you.

    • To me this makes no sense at all. The visual (or computational) ID check takes a second. Why is a manual entry of someone's name/DOB something that takes 5-15 minutes? This is a process control issue, not a technical problem.

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    • 5 minutes for $45 bucks seems expensive. Also, they don't have to check your ID if you don't have one so less time spent on that

  • This happened to me once, they just brought out someone (supervisor?) who asked questions about what addresses I've lived at, other similar questions I'd probably only know the answer to.

    It does take longer than regular screening (most of the time was just spent waiting for the supervisor -- I'm not sure they were spending time collecting some data first), if that causes you to miss your flight you miss your flight.

    It seems plausible to me that $45 could be about a TSA employee's wage times how much longer this takes. In aggregate, this (in theory) lets them hire additional staff to make sure normal screening doesn't take longer due to existing staff being tied up in extra verifications.

what the fuck extra checks and scrutiny could they possibly need? They already go through an x-ray machine and get molested before we get on the plane, "real ID" or not.

  • There are more criteria to get through security than "not carrying prohibited items". Several of those are dependent on identity, which is why they verify identity.

    • It seems to me that all those other consideration only matter for international travel, while for domestic travel its an obvious waste of time from every angle.

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I'm almost positive they get paid the same at the end of the day either way and the $45 just lines the pockets of someone on the top.

  • It's not that they'd pay individual employees more, it's that they'd hire more workers to account for the fact that their existing workers are tied up doing extra verification.

    Though they might not do that either.

    • Even that fails a sanity test. They're not doing anything more than they would have done 25 years ago when the whole damn thing started.

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  • Do you not see how an organization discouraging the use of something inefficient benefits as a whole?

    Thats why cashless businesses exist, why you pay more for things that involve human attention instead of automated online solutions etc.