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Comment by winterqt

6 hours ago

> I think OpenBSD actually does support static libc though.

How does that work, with syscalls being unable to be called except from the system’s libc? I’d be a bit surprised if any binary’s embedded libc would support this model.

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mananaysiempre  6 hours ago

For static executables, “the system’s libc” is of course not a thing. To support those, OpenBSD requires them to include an exhaustive list of all addresses of syscall instructions in a predefined place[1].

(With that said, OpenBSD promises no stability if you choose to bypass libc. What it promises instead is that it will change things in incompatible ways that will hurt. It’s up to you whether the pain that thus results from supporting OpenBSD is worth it.)

[1] https://nullprogram.com/blog/2025/03/06/

oguz-ismail2  6 hours ago

> How does that work, with syscalls being unable to be called except from the system’s libc?

OpenBSD allows system calls being made from shared libraries whose names start with `libc.so.' and all static binaries, as long as they include an `openbsd.syscalls' section listing call sites.

pretendgeneer  6 hours ago

Not all of libc is syscalls. E.g. strlen() is zib libc but open() goes to system libc.

  • tialaramex  22 minutes ago

    Good point. C's "freestanding" mode, analogous to Rust's nostd, does not provide any functions at all, just some type definitions and constants which obviously evaporate when compiled. Rust's nostd not only can compute how long a string is, it can unstably sort a slice, do atomic operations if they exist on your hardware, lots of fancy stuff but as a consequence even nostd has an actual library of code, a similar but maybe less organized situation occurs in C++. Most of the time this is simply better, why hand write your own crap sort when your compiler vendor can just provide an optimised sort for your platform? But on very, very tiny systems this might be unaffordable.

    Anyway, C doesn't have Rust's core versus std distinction and so libc is a muddle of both the "Just useful library stuff" like strlen or qsort and features like open which are bound to the operating system specifics.