Apparently I can spend many, many words expanding on things!
I just looked it up, and apparently War and Peace is about 590,000 words. A book that is a joke in every 90's cartoon as something "really heavy to drop on someone's head", and apparently I've written almost that much arguing with people on a programmers forum.
I've been on here for about 10.5 years, so averaging about 48,515 per year. My favorite book is The Go Between by LP Hartley, and that's 98,621 words [1], so I'm basically writing the equivalent of about half of my favorite novel every year.
So it's a bit weird to me. A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
> A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
I don't know, you have 10 years in this writing, I have 15 years. I've gained so much from 15 years of conversations with people about the topics that come up on HN. That's a lot different than writing an equivalent amount by yourself on a topic you hope others will find meaningful.
So many geographic maps turn out to be just population maps (1). I wonder how much different these rankings would be if you divided the number of words by the account's lifespan. We're all talking about the most "prolific" commenters here, but are we really just talking about the oldest accounts?
I'd love to see two overlaid graphs. One is the top 1000 as currently implemented. The other is the age of that account.
> So it's a bit weird to me. A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
A bit anecdotally but when I built this website (and this is something that I commented to another commentor in here but wanted to share it again),is that I had the same weird feeling you can say (although to write blogs instead)
"I guess I can write it but I already write like this in HN. The procastination of writing specifically in a blog is something which hits me.
Is it just me or is it someone else too? Because on HN I can literally write like novels (or I may have genuinely written enough characters of a novel here, I might have to test it or something lol, got a cool idea right now to measure how many novels a person has written from just their username, time to code it)"
I literally got the idea comparing that I may have written some novel (0.66 of GOT here :) quite a lot less than you but still)
Personally, I like to think that HN definitely helped me with grammar and definitely lots of aspects & also you don't have to think of it as an if-else.
You know how to put in the efforts of writing! You have written 5,09,412 words (just searched through it) and I feel like somewhere my point is that you are capable of writing. You know how to put in the efforts within writing & I feel as if, if writing novels is something that interests you (as I remember your novel idea from another comment you have written here :]) . You are definitely capable of writing & I really suggest for you to go through it and have the confidence to do such!
Good luck writing my friend! :]
> I just looked it up, and apparently War and Peace is about 590,000 words. A book that is a joke in every 90's cartoon as something "really heavy to drop on someone's head", and apparently I've written almost that much arguing with people on a programmers forum.
To be honest, I find it funny how people from outside programming (who might not know programming so much) think that its all the same but in reality we see the amount of nuance through such forums. I really found it funny to think upon.
And to be honest, the things which we argue, where I feel like we expose each other to new nuanced opinions & solidify our opinions by some evidence etc. is something which I really appreciate.
I use Hackernews a bit differently where I use it as a way to expose to new github projects (usually) & I found the ability to find Open source projects (or create when there are none, this project's MIT licensed also I wouldn't call myself author now thinking about it given that I essentially used LLM to write it so time to redact saying I am author or similar xD)
But my point is, that I have found so many great open source projects & communicated with many interesting people which would've been hard to do so without this forum so a bit feeling greatful for this community! Thanks Hackernews <3 (Much love)
It's not too late! At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Maybe my novel about a hyper-intelligent software engineer in New York who no one appreciates and then he saves the world because he's so smart and everyone loves him and finally listens to him is something I can finally write.
I think I may be reading onto this a bit deeper but I feel like sometimes people don't appreciate Software Engineers because a lot of it (still?) feels like (black box?) to the public.
Everyone instinctively knows to appreciate a Doctor. They save lifes, so do Nurses, Paramedics, Firefighters, Army and so many more on which we can live a stable life on.
We all know what each of them do by heart. I feel like all of us can imagine a scene of them saving lives.
But the idea of a CS engineer saving lives is really hard to have a universal picture for. Much of our effects are downstream.
Right now, I am thinking of a Hospital which saved money by using Open source technology to hire more doctors & nurses which can save lives.
I am not sure if I can think of any way where it directly saves lives but it really impacts life so so much.
Now, Discord is something which I don't really appreciate that much but (personally prefer Matrix) but I can see something like discord being used by people to connect to each other and even seek therapy (when the hospital system is booked/overcrowded) and those help the impulses that people might have. It's not the best system agreed but I do feel like it's underappreciated if you ask me.
Maybe the people who write websites/code for non profits for them to be visible and get funding for their right causes (red cross etc.) are some engineers.
I do wish that when you write into this. It isn't some superhero CS engineer saves the world. I wish for it to finally conjure/create an image of how CS engineers can have an Impact on the world.
Anecdotally, I wanted to go into finance but then started using Open source/Linux. I then pivoted into CS engineers. Do you know what my dream was? (still is?) to work on an open source project while being on a beach reviewing commits / writing commits :]
I really respect each and everyone who open source things. You can actually see my struggle about impact. Quite frankly, I don't know how to say this but I am really not interested by money (and if I am, its to have impact down the line or well survival). I just want enough for myself and have a very decent line of knowing how much (usually) & wish to help others then just for the sake of it or perhaps I am too ideal :]
I would genuinely read your book if you can show if CS engineers can have positive impact because I do feel like CS engineers have power & power corrupts many of (us?)when we feel like the benefits of working towards mass dystopia individually somehow both lifts us from the moral repurcussions and also pays us in power/monetary value (which is essentially what society is going towards, one really can't be moral because our society is now favouring power over all means and even a facade of morals is feeling bleak at this point)
How I feel like this is the ability of being fair and sustainable within CS (which is usually not really preferred imo because I mean we are in a VC [ycombinator] forum and the idea of growth over everything else even at money burning is quite common in tech)
So I guess my point is how I really end up this whole thought process (which once again ironically is something that I have done a lot in HN) is to essentially summarize on being fair & transparent & sustainable within any business I might ever do. I wish to be reasonable & I will be honest about how much money I get to hopefully someday do things that click with me [the beach idea sounds lucrative again :) ]
The reason I say all things a lot is to really have some accountability if I might ever do something which can be considered scummy.
Because the way I am thinking is that if I ever do anything scummy for money (the lure of dark side being too much) and people call me out respectfully. I will try to revert it as much as possible. So I guess I can be considered selfish for writing this comment :)
Though I guess if I give a picture of saint (because I felt like I may have given too much of it, I mean I am only human after all), that would be wrong too. I am still motivated by survival/the need to feel important/respectful within my community/extended family/having money to have hobbies in the first place/buying a house for myself.
It's just that I really want enough & I feel like having more than enough might help sometimes (the definition of enough itself can change) but its that I really wish to have some good positive impact before I die to essentially not have regrets. I wish to have less regrets before death.
Witold Pilecki's my hero in this sense. His quote is something I deep down wish to live by. "In the hour of death, I feel joy rather than sorrow" & Honestly, I wish to feel complete before death. Not having regrets (or many regrets, you will still regret things no matter what you do but one can only try to minimize it, have a good intention in life) is something which to me essentially satisfies Pilecki's quote and essentially somewhat of a philosophy of mine & while at it, have a meaning of life for myself. I am a bit of an existentialist :)
Can you expand a bit on how you feel about it? :)
Apparently I can spend many, many words expanding on things!
I just looked it up, and apparently War and Peace is about 590,000 words. A book that is a joke in every 90's cartoon as something "really heavy to drop on someone's head", and apparently I've written almost that much arguing with people on a programmers forum.
I've been on here for about 10.5 years, so averaging about 48,515 per year. My favorite book is The Go Between by LP Hartley, and that's 98,621 words [1], so I'm basically writing the equivalent of about half of my favorite novel every year.
So it's a bit weird to me. A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
[1] https://howlongtoread.com/books/779942/The-GoBetween
> A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
I don't know, you have 10 years in this writing, I have 15 years. I've gained so much from 15 years of conversations with people about the topics that come up on HN. That's a lot different than writing an equivalent amount by yourself on a topic you hope others will find meaningful.
So many geographic maps turn out to be just population maps (1). I wonder how much different these rankings would be if you divided the number of words by the account's lifespan. We're all talking about the most "prolific" commenters here, but are we really just talking about the oldest accounts?
I'd love to see two overlaid graphs. One is the top 1000 as currently implemented. The other is the age of that account.
[1] https://xkcd.com/1138/
> So it's a bit weird to me. A large part of me thinks I should have written five novels instead.
A bit anecdotally but when I built this website (and this is something that I commented to another commentor in here but wanted to share it again),is that I had the same weird feeling you can say (although to write blogs instead)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46828331
"I guess I can write it but I already write like this in HN. The procastination of writing specifically in a blog is something which hits me.
Is it just me or is it someone else too? Because on HN I can literally write like novels (or I may have genuinely written enough characters of a novel here, I might have to test it or something lol, got a cool idea right now to measure how many novels a person has written from just their username, time to code it)"
I literally got the idea comparing that I may have written some novel (0.66 of GOT here :) quite a lot less than you but still)
Personally, I like to think that HN definitely helped me with grammar and definitely lots of aspects & also you don't have to think of it as an if-else.
You know how to put in the efforts of writing! You have written 5,09,412 words (just searched through it) and I feel like somewhere my point is that you are capable of writing. You know how to put in the efforts within writing & I feel as if, if writing novels is something that interests you (as I remember your novel idea from another comment you have written here :]) . You are definitely capable of writing & I really suggest for you to go through it and have the confidence to do such!
Good luck writing my friend! :]
> I just looked it up, and apparently War and Peace is about 590,000 words. A book that is a joke in every 90's cartoon as something "really heavy to drop on someone's head", and apparently I've written almost that much arguing with people on a programmers forum.
To be honest, I find it funny how people from outside programming (who might not know programming so much) think that its all the same but in reality we see the amount of nuance through such forums. I really found it funny to think upon.
And to be honest, the things which we argue, where I feel like we expose each other to new nuanced opinions & solidify our opinions by some evidence etc. is something which I really appreciate.
I use Hackernews a bit differently where I use it as a way to expose to new github projects (usually) & I found the ability to find Open source projects (or create when there are none, this project's MIT licensed also I wouldn't call myself author now thinking about it given that I essentially used LLM to write it so time to redact saying I am author or similar xD)
But my point is, that I have found so many great open source projects & communicated with many interesting people which would've been hard to do so without this forum so a bit feeling greatful for this community! Thanks Hackernews <3 (Much love)
I regret not actually writing several books.
It's not too late! At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Maybe my novel about a hyper-intelligent software engineer in New York who no one appreciates and then he saves the world because he's so smart and everyone loves him and finally listens to him is something I can finally write.
Good Luck!!
I think I may be reading onto this a bit deeper but I feel like sometimes people don't appreciate Software Engineers because a lot of it (still?) feels like (black box?) to the public.
Everyone instinctively knows to appreciate a Doctor. They save lifes, so do Nurses, Paramedics, Firefighters, Army and so many more on which we can live a stable life on.
We all know what each of them do by heart. I feel like all of us can imagine a scene of them saving lives.
But the idea of a CS engineer saving lives is really hard to have a universal picture for. Much of our effects are downstream.
Right now, I am thinking of a Hospital which saved money by using Open source technology to hire more doctors & nurses which can save lives.
I am not sure if I can think of any way where it directly saves lives but it really impacts life so so much.
Now, Discord is something which I don't really appreciate that much but (personally prefer Matrix) but I can see something like discord being used by people to connect to each other and even seek therapy (when the hospital system is booked/overcrowded) and those help the impulses that people might have. It's not the best system agreed but I do feel like it's underappreciated if you ask me.
Maybe the people who write websites/code for non profits for them to be visible and get funding for their right causes (red cross etc.) are some engineers.
I do wish that when you write into this. It isn't some superhero CS engineer saves the world. I wish for it to finally conjure/create an image of how CS engineers can have an Impact on the world.
Anecdotally, I wanted to go into finance but then started using Open source/Linux. I then pivoted into CS engineers. Do you know what my dream was? (still is?) to work on an open source project while being on a beach reviewing commits / writing commits :]
I really respect each and everyone who open source things. You can actually see my struggle about impact. Quite frankly, I don't know how to say this but I am really not interested by money (and if I am, its to have impact down the line or well survival). I just want enough for myself and have a very decent line of knowing how much (usually) & wish to help others then just for the sake of it or perhaps I am too ideal :]
This submission is essentially what I really wish: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45558430 [Ask HN: Why are most people not interested in FOSS/OSS and can we change that]
I would genuinely read your book if you can show if CS engineers can have positive impact because I do feel like CS engineers have power & power corrupts many of (us?)when we feel like the benefits of working towards mass dystopia individually somehow both lifts us from the moral repurcussions and also pays us in power/monetary value (which is essentially what society is going towards, one really can't be moral because our society is now favouring power over all means and even a facade of morals is feeling bleak at this point)
How I feel like this is the ability of being fair and sustainable within CS (which is usually not really preferred imo because I mean we are in a VC [ycombinator] forum and the idea of growth over everything else even at money burning is quite common in tech)
So I guess my point is how I really end up this whole thought process (which once again ironically is something that I have done a lot in HN) is to essentially summarize on being fair & transparent & sustainable within any business I might ever do. I wish to be reasonable & I will be honest about how much money I get to hopefully someday do things that click with me [the beach idea sounds lucrative again :) ]
The reason I say all things a lot is to really have some accountability if I might ever do something which can be considered scummy.
Because the way I am thinking is that if I ever do anything scummy for money (the lure of dark side being too much) and people call me out respectfully. I will try to revert it as much as possible. So I guess I can be considered selfish for writing this comment :)
Though I guess if I give a picture of saint (because I felt like I may have given too much of it, I mean I am only human after all), that would be wrong too. I am still motivated by survival/the need to feel important/respectful within my community/extended family/having money to have hobbies in the first place/buying a house for myself.
It's just that I really want enough & I feel like having more than enough might help sometimes (the definition of enough itself can change) but its that I really wish to have some good positive impact before I die to essentially not have regrets. I wish to have less regrets before death.
Witold Pilecki's my hero in this sense. His quote is something I deep down wish to live by. "In the hour of death, I feel joy rather than sorrow" & Honestly, I wish to feel complete before death. Not having regrets (or many regrets, you will still regret things no matter what you do but one can only try to minimize it, have a good intention in life) is something which to me essentially satisfies Pilecki's quote and essentially somewhat of a philosophy of mine & while at it, have a meaning of life for myself. I am a bit of an existentialist :)
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