{"id":46872355,"user":"otterley","time":1770133222,"time_ago":"14 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

What do you mean by “afford the cost”? The list is free of charge (https://support.google.com/a/answer/10026322?hl=en-GB) and maintenance can be fully automated.","comments":[{"id":46872968,"user":"chrisjj","time":1770135550,"time_ago":"13 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

I mean cost of server setup and execution.","comments":[{"id":46875850,"user":"otterley","time":1770146407,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

The server that is providing the content exists already. That's a sunk cost.","comments":[{"id":46875926,"user":"chrisjj","time":1770146666,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

"setup and execution".","comments":[{"id":46876282,"user":"otterley","time":1770148214,"time_ago":"10 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

What serious operator of a service isn't budgeting time to implement and operate critical maintenance functions?","comments":[{"id":46876421,"user":"chrisjj","time":1770148833,"time_ago":"9 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Me for one. Adding an auto-updating IP address blocker to my personal blog site would probably cost more than setting up the whole site did in the first place.","comments":[{"id":46881018,"user":"otterley","time":1770174976,"time_ago":"2 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

Have you actually priced it, or are you just guessing?

Are you doing regular patching? Automated restarts? Watching for security breaches? Or just praying it stays up forever?

Otherwise, respectfully, I would not classify you as a "serious operator." Your site could live or die, and it would be all the same to you. Or, you've handed it to a third party for management and they don't offer much in the way of resilience or stability.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46881018"},{"id":46877171,"user":"mr_mitm","time":1770152134,"time_ago":"8 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

We're talking about sites that make their living via subscriptions. They should have a great interest at blocking archive.is, which is, by the way, the only service that can reliably bypass many paywalls. Clearly whatever they're doing is not easily replicated.","comments":[{"id":46878039,"user":"chrisjj","time":1770156622,"time_ago":"7 hours ago","type":"comment","content":"

> We're talking about sites that make their living via subscriptions.

Sorry, but I wasn't. I thought that was clear from "can't afford the cost of keeping up-to-date with the Google IP list".

> They should have a great interest at blocking archive.is

Agreed, and many should have a budget to suit. So I conclude archive.is has put a lot of effort and cost into its defence. And all for free to us, the users.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=46878039"}],"comments_count":1,"level":5,"url":"item?id=46877171"}],"comments_count":3,"level":4,"url":"item?id=46876421"}],"comments_count":4,"level":3,"url":"item?id=46876282"}],"comments_count":5,"level":2,"url":"item?id=46875926"}],"comments_count":6,"level":1,"url":"item?id=46875850"}],"comments_count":7,"level":0,"url":"item?id=46872968"}],"comments_count":8,"url":"item?id=46872355"}

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