Comment by TehCorwiz
1 day ago
And they're still doing anything except addressing the grievances that lead to that.
EDIT: I think you mean "allegedly"
1 day ago
And they're still doing anything except addressing the grievances that lead to that.
EDIT: I think you mean "allegedly"
Right, because most people recognize that the US has become sufficiently polarized and radicalized that "If enough people are mad at you, a complete stranger might shoot you" is not a theory of change we want to encourage. Yes, even for causes we agree with, most adults in the room understand that "people being mad at you" is pretty independent of how righteous your cause is, and even how civil and thoughtful you are in pursuing it.
Are you claiming that the most likely proximal cause for his murder was the legal ability to print a gun rather than any concerns or grievances the shooter may have had related to the healthcare industry or United Healthcare specifically?
Yes, I think access to firearms affects the murder rate.
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Won't someone think of the grievances that poor far-left terrorist had this vermin murdered Brian Thompson :'(
>because most people recognize that the US has become sufficiently polarized and radicalized that "If enough people are mad at you, a complete stranger might shoot you" is not a theory of change we want to encourage.
God forbid individuals and organizations not choose paths of action that "low level piss off" millions of people such that their chance of being at the business end of some outlier who will actually do violence upon them is non-trivial.
It's not hard to not be "the thing" in any given crazy's life they choose to go out with a bang over, especially if you're not something they deal with every day. If that means that the default amount of screwage your organization applies needs to be dialed back, or that you must clean house a little better or more often then cry me a river.
>most adults in the room understand that "people being mad at you" is pretty independent of how righteous your cause is
Except it's not. The "budget" you have to wrong people and cause despair before people would be apathetic to violence done upon you is pretty directly coupled to the amount of good you do to offset your harm.
>It's not hard to not be "the thing" in any given crazy's life they choose to go out with a bang over
> The "budget" you have to wrong people and cause despair before people would be apathetic to violence done upon you is pretty directly coupled to the amount of good you do to offset your harm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Abraham_Linco...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kenne...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Martin_Luther...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Lennon
Agree to disagree. I'm not willing to trust the judgement of those most willing to commit gun violence as to whom deserves gun violence.
> doing anything except addressing the grievances that lead to that.
Well yeah, it's not exactly easy to get everyone to understand that insurance isn't magic and money out has to match money in.
According to this source, united healthcare profits were $14B in 2024. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/unitedhealth-unh-2024-re...
So yeah, money out not matching money in is exactly the problem.
So a bit under 5% per the rest of the numbers in that link.
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About half of those profits were from the Optum side of the business, not from insurance.
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Money out had better not match money in or the insurance company will be in a lot of trouble.
Imagine if we removed the need for insurance to turn a profit.
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