← Back to context

Comment by ffsm8

9 hours ago

You're wrong - at least from the perspective of the commons.

First paragraph on Wikipedia

> Child pornography (CP), also known as child sexual abuse material (CSAM) and by more informal terms such as kiddie porn,[1][2][3] is erotic material that involves or depicts persons under the designated age of majority. The precise characteristics of what constitutes child pornography vary by criminal jurisdiction.[4][5]

Honestly, reading your link got me seriously facepalming. The whole argument seems to be centered around the fact that sexualizing children is disgusting, hence it shouldn't be called porn. While i'd agree that sexualizing kids is disgusting, denying that it's porn on that grounds is feels kinda... Childish? Like someone holding their ears closed and shouting loudly in order not to hear the words the adults around them are saying.

I think the idea is that normal porn can be consensual. Material involving children never can be.

Perhaps similar to how we have a word for murder that is different from "killing" even though murder always involves killing.

> First paragraph on Wikipedia

"...the encyclopedia anyone can edit." Yes, there are people who wish to redefine CSAM to include child porn - including even that between consenting children committing no crime and no abuse.

Compare and contrast Interpol. https://www.interpol.int/en/Crimes/Crimes-against-children/A...

> The whole argument seems to be centered around the fact that sexualizing children is disgusting, hence it shouldn't be called porn.

I have no idea how anyone could reasonably draw that conclusion from this thread.

  • > have no idea how anyone could reasonably draw that conclusion from this thread.

    > > Honestly, reading your link got me seriously facepalming. The whole argument seems to be centered around the fact that sexualizing children is disgusting, hence it shouldn't be called porn.

    Where exactly did you get the impression from I made this observation from this comment thread?

    Your interpol link seems to be literally using the same argument again from a very casual glance btw.

    > We encourage the use of appropriate terminology to avoid trivializing the sexual abuse and exploitation of children.

    > Pornography is a term used for adults engaging in consensual sexual acts distributed (mostly) legally to the general public for their sexual pleasure.

    • > Where exactly did you get the impression from I made this observation from this comment thread?

      I assumed you expected us to know what you were referring to.