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Comment by exceptione

14 days ago

And their philosophy of mediocre = good enough. (Not everything ofc, MS is a continent. .net core, language design etc is top-notch.)

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pjmlp  14 days ago

Which certainly has to do with it being initially developed at Microsoft Research Cambridge, and not plain Microsoft.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190111203733/https://blogs.msd...

  • brg  14 days ago

    I would argue that the success has more to do with DevDiv being the strongest technical organization at MS than its provenance.

    • direwolf20  14 days ago

      I STILL REMEMBER WHEN SOME MARKETING IDIOT DECIDED THAT VISUAL STUDIO NEEDED TO SHOUT AT YOU. IT TOOK THREE MAJOR VERISONS BEFORE VISUAL STUDIO STOPPED LOOKING LIKE THIS COMMENT. OF COURSE THERE WASN'T A SETTING TO MAKE IT NORMAL AGAIN.

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    • pjmlp  14 days ago

      Until they messed up the whole UWP / WinRT developer experience in Visual Studio.

      Also VS 2026 was released with a hard milestone, thus while there is a new settings experience, many options show a dialog from VS 2022, because the new UI is still not implemented for the new experience.

      Note that most organisations have to pay for Visual Studio licenses, and get rewarded with such quality.

      Slop has also arrived into DevDiv.

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  • exceptione  14 days ago

    Ah, thanks. That must be the link with Simon Peyton Jones as well. Seems to be another case of a marketing machine running away with foundational research coming from Europe.*

    * no hard feelings