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Comment by NoMoreNicksLeft

16 days ago

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> The US taxpayer has no moral obligation to send welfare "around the world".

Sure. It's a transactional purchase of stability and goodwill, via which the US has benefited enormously.

Correct. But also, it's a bandaid (and a really ineffective one ie. 99% lossy) on real issues of that world.

> The US taxpayer has no moral obligation to send welfare "around the world".

I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do.

Even if we buy your thesis, foregoing morals, geopolitics, and history, it's a useful soft power strategy...

I'm not saying fund USAID before healthcare for all in america. I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious.

  • >I mean, by way of the atrocities we've committed around the world, we kinda do.

    I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events.

    >it's a useful soft power strategy.

    Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures.

    >I'm saying of all the insane things our government wastes money on, USAID was far down on the list of most egregious.

    What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all.

    • >Sure, if you're some sort of tyrant. I thought the left was against colonialism... but you guys really just one a more clever, subtle colonialism eh? Figures

      Drastic misrepresentation. I made no value judgements. I simply offered reasons why the above commenter may be wrong. from different points of view. You misunderstand or are naive to the spectrum of how parasitic to symbiotic those soft power relationships can be

      > What you're saying is that no cuts can or should be made, unless they are your favorite cuts first. And maybe after you get those, no others need be made at all.

      Nope, just saying there's pretty clear science behind where money could be better spent besides billions in forever wars. Maybe start there? 9$ trillion on pointless wars in the middle east comes to mind? google a map of countries we've overthrown the democratic leader of if you want more examples. all the shahs men is useful too. i could go on.

      > I've committed no atrocities. Going to guess that you've committed no atrocities. What atrocities did occur, most of those who committed those are dead, the rest are senile in nursing homes. I have no guilt and certainly feel no guilt for those events

      It's not about that. someone simply had to pay that debt. sorry to tell you those bills they wracked up to accumulate wealth are coming due for the rest of us right or not.