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Comment by kleiba

13 days ago

Obviously, facts do not play a big role in the current government's world view.

Like Ken Jennings said about this: "you have wonder if the problem was 'world,' 'facts,' or 'books'"

Ironically, most people who think that also think the opposite of the previous administration.

  • There is one rule of thumb to tell them apart.

    If you happen across a random book burning, can you confidently assume which side they are voting for.

Truly dark times when we can't even trust the CIA anymore.

  • This is a good joke, but it's also true that the whole charade of trying to look "institutional" and "fact-based" was a pretty decent way to go about pursuing the US agenda. "Hey we are the good guys, we show you real numbers" was a good line to push, and it could often show up the opposition as cranks and liars.

    Nowadays, nobody even pretends to not be a liar, from any side. There is no debate that even attempts to look at the facts - it's vibes all the way down and fuck you if you don't agree, only money and guns matter. In the long run, this can't hold.

    • Your grievance is that we won’t have good cover to pursue our interests when they conflict with the sovereignty and security of others? You think it was good to lie and say that we’re the good guys while we inflict harm on others?

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    • > In the long run, this can't hold.

      It's always held, management just changes. Money and power are two fundamental constants to human nature.

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  • Then don't watch "Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" that was what showed me a bit of the under dealings of how that organization was structured and created.

    Spoiler: The CIA was formed around rich people's interests and continue to represent them, not in fact, the American people. Harsh reality but helpful to know.

  • The CIA was formed in 1947 and the first known controversy was in 1953. And has a whole list of controversies since then. From giving citizens LSD, wiretapping citizens, to supporting Central American cocaine distribution. And this is where you draw the line on trustworthiness? Lol