Comment by Teever
6 hours ago
The key is the money.
I’ve used matrix for years, ran my own federated server for a while.
I’ve been critical of the user experience and issues with how it’s handled by the matrix team before but I acknowledge that by and large these problems can be fixed with money.
Big players need to put their big boy pants on and throw a couple coins from their farcically large coin purse and they can drive a stake through the wretched heart that is Teams.
And this is the part I hope Europe gets. They don't have nearly as much money to throw at Matrix as Microsoft can throw at Teams, but they do have massive resources, and I bet that since Matrix doesn't have many of the same shitty KPIs as Slack and Teams, those resources can go much further.
The lack of shitty KPIs is the main thing. Hiring 10 full time devs to work on Matrix would probably be more effective than 500 full time devs on Slack/Teams with most of them stuck on weird Product Manager goals and renaming things to Copilot 365 Teams with Copilot.
I guess that the European Commission pays a lot of money to Microsoft in licenses. They could pay a fraction of those money to Matrix.
Are you saying that Microsoft is more wealthy than all of “Europe”? And surely you must mean the EU.
The money needed to improve matrix is nothing compared to what is already being spent on Microsoft products.
> Are you saying that Microsoft is more wealthy than all of “Europe”?
"In 2024, the EU spent €403 billion on research and development" [1]. In 2024, Microsoft spend $29.5bn on R&D [2]. So about 20 Microsofts makes up the entire EU's R&D expenditure.
Alphabet, meanwhile, spent $49.3bn on R&D in 2024 [3]. It earned $350bn that year. So it would be correct to say that Microsoft and Alphabet's revenues, alone, rival the total amount Europe spends on research and development. (Non-EU non-British spending is insignificant.)
[1] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
[2] https://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar24/
[3] https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1652044/000165204425...
Microsoft may have money, but it certainly does not seem like it is being spent on Teams in an effective way.