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Comment by jMyles

5 hours ago

The difference is that North Korea is a place, with an organization that claims to be its government. You can point to it on a map.

Antifa is an adjective that people with no connection to one another self-apply. I'm antifa, and I imagine you are too, but it doesn't mean that we've ever met or coordinated with one another in any meaningful way.

The word "antifa" is basically meaningless altogether, since virtually every person since the end of WW2 claims to oppose fascism.

Antifa is also a noun describing a group of people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

  • Who is in that group?

    • Everyone who declared themselves to oppose fascism

      But it's not about meanings of words with these people. It's about exercising power. Facts and logic don't matter.

  • Wikipedia doesn't use the phrase "group of people", and cites a symposium as a source for the assessment that "it is a highly decentralized array of autonomous groups in the United States," so, I'm not sure this advances the discussion.

    It's obvious that the vast, overwhelming majority of people consider themselves anti-fascist. So I really don't think it possible for this term to ever actually describe a particular group of people, excluding other groups of people.

    These attempts to shoehorn the word "antifa" into some kind of distinct organization seem like they are just a lingual change to make it more difficult to use this phrase, or more difficult to advance critiques of fascist tendencies wherever they may appear.