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Comment by rvz

17 days ago

> If you’re a small team with a simple app and straightforward tests, it’s probably fine. I’m not going to tell you to rip it out.

> But if you’re running a real production system, if you have a monorepo, if your builds take more than five minutes, if you care about supply chain security, if you want to actually own your CI: look at Buildkite.

Goes in line with exactly what I said in 2020 [0] about GitHub vs Self-hosting. Not a big deal for individuals, but for large businesses it's a problem if you can push that critical change when your CI is down every week.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803

I know this is off topic, but that homepage is a piece of work: https://buildkite.com

I get it's quirky, but I'm at a low energy state and just wanted to know what it does...

Right before I churned out, I happened to click "[E] Exit to classic Buildkite" and get sent to their original homepage: https://buildkite.com/platform/

It just tells you what it Buildkite does! Sure it looks default B2B SaaS, but more importantly it's clear. "The fastest CI platform" instead of some LinkedIn-slop manifesto.

If I want to know why it's fast, I scroll down and learn it scales to lots of build agents and has unlimited parallelism!

And if I wonder if it plays nice with my stack, I scroll and there's logos for a bunch of well known testing frameworks!

And if I want to know if this isn't v0.0001 pre-alpha software by a pre-seed company spending runway on science-fair home pages, this one has social proof that isn't buried in a pseudo-intellectual rant!

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I went down the rabbit hole of what lead to this and it's... interesting to say the least.

https://medium.com/design-bootcamp/nothing-works-until-you-m...

https://www.reddit.com/r/branding/comments/1pi6b8g/nothing_w...

https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1petsis/comment/nsm...

  • Hello mate, Head of Brand and Design at BK here. Thanks for the feedback, genuinely; the homepage experiment has been divisive, in a great way. Some folk love it, some folk hate it, some just can't be bothered with it. All fair.

    Glad that the classic site hit the mark, but a lot work to do to make that clearer than it is; we're working on the next iteration that will sunset the CLI homepage into an easter egg.

    Happy to take more critique, either on the execution or the rabbit hole.

    • Great of you to accept critiques, but I don't think there's anything more I can add.

      You brought up Planetscale's markdown homepage rework in one of those posts and I actually think it's great... but it's also clear, direct, and has no hidden information.

      I'd love to see what happens to conversions once you retire this to an Easter Egg.

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    • I did a BK search earlier in the article and ended on the same page, decided I couldn't be bothered to play those sort of games and clicked away. The GPs link actually looks rather interesting so I'll investigate, so take this a hate-it-folk vote.

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