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Comment by tonyedgecombe

19 days ago

TV is pretty good even for my English sensibilities. Severance is some of the best television I’ve seen in a long time.

And Slow Horses, which is perhaps my favorite show in years. I'm not a big TV watcher, and this show got me to subscribe (at least for a while) to Apple TV.

  • Try Pluribus. We just finished S01. Also pretty good.

    Calling AppleTV low quality doesn't fit. The rest, yeah. Pretty useless.

Commercials in TV+ are as bad as ads in News+, e.g. it seems I cannot open the app without getting blasted at with a Peacock commercial.

  • What? I’ve never seen a single commercial on an Apple TV+ show.

    • Something like 70% of the comments I've seen on this thread show that either:

      1) The user has never owned an Apple Device in their life. 2) They are trolling super hard.

      There are complaints to be had that I definitely agree with, however, I see a TON of fiction for every single legitimate complaint.

      No, not an Apple employee, shareholder, etc. (I am broke and dependent on my wife because I am disabled lol)

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    • They've had a commercial (trailer) before every show / movie we've watched in the past week. We can skip them, but they are there.

    • You haven't seen Apple product placement in their shows?

      Servant was a walking ad for iPhones and Facetime lol

TV productions are a product, not a service. Apple TV is the service.

  • Apple has a tv service and Apple also has exclusive content, which they brand with “Apple TV”…so it’s kind of both.

    Same for the other big streaming services. Some of them (Netflix, Prime Video) are more involved in content production, up to and including having production facilities and an in house staff. But a lot of the “exclusive” branded content is made by semi-independent production companies.

    • > Apple has a tv service and Apple also has exclusive content, which they brand with “Apple TV”…

      And of course the device itself. I wish they would have distinct names.

Which makes it even more tragic that the few good streaming shows produced recently are all on a network no one watches.

I am glad that they bought the rights to Brandon Sanderson's books, because I know Netflix wouldn't do them justice and Amazon prime would be far worse than that, but it also means that it will have a tenth of the available audience that a Netflix contract would have brought.

  • If they were serving the mass market then they would be making trash like Netflix.

    • I'm not sure how causality works on that one. Netflix made great stuff, back when streaming was still a small market, then they got big and started making trash.

      It's not like they weren't trying to attract everyone when they were releasing content worth watching. Maybe it's because they didn't have any feedback yet on what works, so they couldn't even try to make safe bets, instead creating a little of everything, with most of it being bland, but a surprising portion being top-tier.

  • Hmm, your comment resonates in principle [caring about quality production of worthwhile narratives], but your specific examples show how much YMMV when it comes to subjective preferences. I was so grateful that Amazon Prime somehow did justice to The Expanse [I highly recommend the novels, and feel the show was one of the best-ever translations of sci-fi to the screen] and could never get into the Wheel of Time book series [tho I guess that was Jordan, not Sanderson, shrug].

    • Amazon didn't start The Expanse as a TV show, though. They bought it after Sci-Fi ran it then cancelled it. They didn't screw it up after that, but that's a very different sequence from creating it themselves.

      Compare to their much-ballyhooed exercise in lighting money on fire that was their LOTR series.

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