Comment by AlotOfReading
6 hours ago
I'm saying flush handles aren't about drag, not passing judgement on whether those other factors are bad.
6 hours ago
I'm saying flush handles aren't about drag, not passing judgement on whether those other factors are bad.
Drag is absolutely one of those factors. Yes, it only contributes a small amount to the overall drag profile of the vehicle, but a vehicle is a sum of its parts ultimately.
It's not a meaningful factor in decisionmaking. Manufacturers went on an aerodynamics optimization spree in the 80s after the fuel crisis. Concepts like the Ford Probe actually dropped handles and all other protruding surfaces in favor of things like electrical touch panels. Seriously, go look at the photos. Even the pillars are flush.
The production vehicles designed after these concepts often used flush pull-up handles for aerodynamics. Those handles later disappeared in favor of the more reliable pull-bar handles we're familiar with because improved CFD made it clear how minimal their benefit actually was for the tradeoffs.
Of course, even if we accept that all the mechanical complexity of flush handles is necessary for aerodynamic reasons, it's not the only alternative to pull-bars. Look at the Volvo EX60 for an example. Designing a flush handle is hard. Tesla spent years working on it. It's not something undertaken for negligible aerodynamic benefits.
I'm not at all suggesting the primary factor for the change was made for aerodynamic benefits. I am saying that the entire concept is a nod to aerodynamics. That's where the idea conceptually originates from, and it helps more than zero.
Similar to how Mazda has bragged about shaving grams off of a rear view mirror in a Miata. Are Miata's light because their rear view mirror lost a few grams of weight? No. Are Miatas light because Mazda applied that design philosophy to the whole vehicle? Yes.
What tradeoff is there between pull-up and pull-out handles?
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