Comment by raw_anon_1111
18 days ago
That’s exactly what it means , a person who reports to the infrastructure team who decides standards and is embedded with the devs as part of the project.
If you are just throwing things over the fence - you’re an “operations” team and get none of the benefits of DevOps
Understood, but so far what I observed is the embedded devops pressured/saying Yes/beholden to a PM running sprints, and the central infra team management constantly has to intervene to protect the embedded devops engineer politically.
Maybe my experience is a rare example, but my conclusion so far is that it's tricky to prevent this painful situation, and requires vigilance.
And once you have the infra team saying no all of the time and being antagonistic - you’re back to old school operations and you aren’t a DevOps shop.
But if they never say no, how do you maintain central infrastructure standards?
If you say yes all the time, I feel like that's how you turn devops into Ops monkeys who are reactive, since people are operating on Sprint timelines instead of optimizing for long-term stability.
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