Comment by dist-epoch
20 days ago
Goes the other way around too: Linux will only have a good desktop environment when it's users will be willing to leave it.
20 days ago
Goes the other way around too: Linux will only have a good desktop environment when it's users will be willing to leave it.
> Linux will only have a good desktop environment when it's users will be willing to leave it.
Putting aside the debate as to the quality of desktop environments, I honestly hope you're being intentionally nonsensical as a joke. What you describe can only make sense under the grossly misinformed belief that "Linux" is a monolithic entity incentivised to stop its users from "leaving it", and that this mythical "Linux" would have the agency to decide it needed "a good desktop environment" in order to avoid that from happening.
Linux desktop environments are developed by its users wanting the best experience possible.
Windows is designed by a committee that tries to do as little as possible and has ulterior motives higher on the priority scale than UX. Like marketing copilot and other Microsoft subscription services. Microsoft software is always aimed to be just good enough for the users to not choose something better. They love just coasting on their marketshare without doing much to improve. Like they did with internet explorer and now do with office.
> Linux desktop environments are developed by its users wanting the best experience possible.
have you used GNOME?
I'm a lifelong KDE person but it's still clear to me that GNOME is crafted with care, and I find it pretty usable.
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GNOME devs operates more like benevolent dictators. It sure is oppressive and you better be glad for what you are getting, but what they put out with so few resources is leagues above what microsoft can do nowadays.
GNOME is easy. Press the super key, type the first 1 to 4 characters of your application's name, press enter.
I haven't been in the GNOME settings for years.
I'm currently using Niri+Noctalia just to try them out, but I typically use Gnome and like it quite a bit for its simple, clean interface.
I use macOS and Linux, and the way GNOME works makes switching between them easier for me than when I run KDE, for instance (I'm sure others have a different experience, and that's what is so great about Linux).
Yeah; currently I'm on F43, wayland+KDE.
Death by thousand cuts. I'm moving back to Gnome and ideally away from wayland too. The thing as simple as secret management (for git and keys) is just one of these things....
Yes I hate gnome. I tried to use it but I needed too many plugins to make it work the way I need. I'm not the kind of person who adapts to software, software must adapt to me. But the developers of gnome love it and they make the best thing they want to have.
I hate their opinionated design and I love settings so I use KDE. I love that. That's the good thing about Linux. Everyone can use it as they like. Unfortunately there seems to be some pressure to unify things to make it more for "the masses" but I will not play along with that for sure.
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Linux has had several good desktop environments for well over 20 years.
When is Windows going to get a good desktop environment?
I recently started using COSMIC and I would definitely call it good, even if it has a few rough edges due to just recently coming out of beta.
I mean, from my perspective Linux has multiple good desktop environments. I've used both Cinnamon and KDE for years and have found both perfectly pleasant to use.