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Comment by backscratches

19 days ago

Yes this is not local first, the name is bad.

Horrible. Just because you have code that runs not in a browser doesn't mean you have something that's local. This goes double when the code requires API calls. Your net goes down and this stuff does nothing.

  • For a web developer local-first only describes where the state of the program lives. In the case of this app that’s in local files. If anthropics api was down you would just use something else. Something like OpenRouter would support model fallbacks out of the box

  • Not to mention that you can actually have something that IS local AND runs in a browser :D

  • In a world where IT doesn't mean anything, crypto doesn't mean anything, AI doesn't mean anything, AGI doesn't mean anything, End-to-end encryption doesn't mean anything, why should local-first mean anything? We must unite against the tyranny of distinction.

It absolutely can be pointed to any standard endpoint, either cloud or local.

It’s far better for most users to be able to specify an inference server (even on localhost in some cases) because the ecosystem of specialized inference servers and models is a constantly evolving target.

If you write this kind of software, you will not only be reinventing the wheel but also probably disadvantaging your users if you try to integrate your own inference engine instead of focusing on your agentic tooling. Ollama, vllm, hugging face, and others are devoting their focus to the servers, there is no reason to sacrifice the front end tooling effort to duplicate their work.

Besides that, most users will not be able to run the better models on their daily driver, and will have a separate machine for inference or be running inference in private or rented cloud, or even over public API.

  • It is not local first. Local is not the primary use case. The name is misleading to the point I almost didn't click because I do not run local models.

    • I think the author is using local-first as in “your files stay local, and the framework is compatible with on-prem infra”. Aside from not storing your docs and data with a cloud service though, it’s very usable with cloud inference providers, so I can see your point.

      Maybe the author should have specified that capability, even though it seems redundant, since local-first implies local capability but also cloud compatibility, or it would be local or local-only.

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To be precise, it’s exactly as local first as OpenClaw (i.e. probably not unless you have an unusually powerful GPU).

Confused me at first as when I saw mention of local + the single file thing in the GitHub I assumed they were going to have llamafile bundled and went looking through to see what model they were using by default.