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Comment by SJC_Hacker

19 days ago

> The real problem is we don't have a low-friction digital payment system that allows individuals to automate sending payment requests for small amounts of money to each other without requiring everyone to sign up for a merchant account with a financial bureaucracy.

Its called cryptocurrency

First you have to make it low-friction. If I want Joe Average to send me $1 in cryptocurrency, how is he getting $1 in cryptocurrency to send me?

  • >First you have to make it low-friction. If I want Joe Average to send me $1 in cryptocurrency, how is he getting $1 in cryptocurrency to send me?

    Absolutely. You're 1000% correct. Cryptocurrency is way too high friction for stuff like that. When I wish to spend crypto, I need to:

    [If you don't have an exchange account already, you'll need the 0.x steps too!]

    0.0 Create an account on an exchange which is legally allowed to operate in your state/country;

    0.1 Provide all sorts of KYC/AML info including photos of yourself and your government ID;

    0.2 Wait hours/days/weeks for the exchange to "validate" your KYC/AML info and allow you to purchase crypto;

    1. Log in to an exchange which is actually allowed to operate in the place where one resides;

    2. Purchase Bitcoin or other coin the exchange deems appropriate (leaving aside the hefty fee charged for using fiat currency/traditional credit card);

    3. Wait days/weeks until the exchange allows you to transfer the purchased cryptocurrency out of your exchange-hosted wallet;

    4. Transfer crypto to a wallet you actually control;

    5. Convert the crypto purchased on the exchange to the crypto coin required for whatever your purpose may be;

    6. Transmit the crypto to the destination wallet.

    Total time (not including setting up the exchange account, which can take anywhere from 1-10 days): 3-10 days.

    Much too high friction for small payments, IMHO.

    • All the setup is no worse than setting up a bank account

      And technically it can be avoided through back channels if you know someone who already has it - can just pay them cash or whatever and they can send crypto to you

      Crypto is very easy to transfer once you have a wallet

      Its the exchange to/from real world currency where the friction is.

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  • There is no shortage of apps to do that these days. Venmo and CashApp are pretty mainstream for people in the US.

    • I'll better keep the $1 to myself than go through the crazy 35 steps KYC onboarding form just to send that $1.