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Comment by assimpleaspossi

15 days ago

Are you saying legal US citizens are having a tough time in Minnesota with ICE? My cousins and their families aren't. They're too busy leading their own normal, daily lives.

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malnourish  15 days ago

Yes; my neighbors had trouble going to the grocery store. From appearances, you might think they're on vacation from Mexico. They have been here for generations, and one of their family is a high enough ranking member of the military that I won't say more to avoid the risk of doxxing them.

estearum  15 days ago

Yes, two of them were just killed. Does that qualify as "having a tough time?"

  • assimpleaspossi  15 days ago

    And how many people live in Minnesota? What were they doing when they were killed?

    • estearum  15 days ago

      I don't get your point. What proportion of residents does an event need to negatively impact for you to believe that it's hassling people?

      Surely it can't be 100%, right? No event in any major city, even horrific events, actually affect everyone.

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    • sfink  14 days ago

      > What were they doing when they were killed?

      One was returning from dropping off her 6 year old child at school.

      The other was videotaping ICE activity with one hand while holding out the other hand to show he was no was no threat.

      What is your point, exactly? Neither was doing anything illegal, neither was directly trying to interfere with ICE actions. (The first wasn't trying to interfere at all.)

      Although normally I'd say wait for the full evidence to be revealed, in this case (1) there's already a wealth of evidence from bystanders, and (2) the investigations are actively being interfered with so official evidence is not forthcoming.

      Those are the 2 citizens killed. CBP and ICE killed at least 25 other people in the field and at least 30 died in custody (one source cites 30-32, another 44).

      Apparently, the violence is necessary to deport at (checks notes) a lower rate than Biden's. It might make sense if the current enforcement was aimed at serious criminals, but only the rhetoric is. The current enforcement is much less selective. More damage, less gain.

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