Comment by lII1lIlI11ll
16 days ago
This only applies if you take all those "protect the children" initiatives at face value. It seems to me that the actual reasons are different. Governments want to police speech online and be able to arrest people who say things they don't approve of, so they are pushing platforms to collect user's PID. Some also want to discourage people from doing things they don't want them to do but that are politically unfeasible to criminalize (watching videos of consenting adults engaging in all kinds of sexual acts) and adding more and more friction to the process (no pun intended!) is the best thing they can get. And the internet companies want more of your data to track you.
Yeah I 100% agree - but if you give them an alternative way to do the same thing without everyone having to get IDed - then I’d they still want that they’ll have to come out and be explicit.
Like the UK, where you can tweet that someone should burn down a hotel full of migrants, and you can be arrested for tweeting that.
Or like Russia, where you can tweet that you don't like the president, and you can be arrested for tweeting that?
> someone should burn down a hotel full of migrants
> you don't like the president
One of these things is not like the other. In the second case, it's expressing disagreement with a political figure that has directed multiple mass murders of vulnerable people.
But in the first, it's promoting the mass murder of vulnerable people. Free speech isn't freedom to promote hate crimes.
> Like the UK, where you can tweet that someone should burn down a hotel full of migrants, and you can be arrested for tweeting that.
During the middle of a riot where people were actively trying to set fire to a hotel full of migrants.
Do you think someone should be arrested for encouraging the burning down of a hotel full of people in real life? If so, why should it be different online? If not, well then you have more serious problems.
I do, but a lot of people don't think it should be possible for the government to track down the person who tweeted let's burn down the migrants hotel.
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Do you have someone announce you when entering somewhere in real life, and if not why should it be any different online?
Like both, of course!
When you build a panopticon for some group you perceive as "good guys" to use keep in mind that eventually it will be controlled by "bad guys".
The burn down a hotel thing wasn't about panopticons - Lucy Connolly posted publicly with her own name and photo. (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRestIsPolitics/comments/1lvrepk/...)
The sentence was probably excessive though.
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Look up how people were prosecuted in the US during the 1950s and onwards for having "communist sympathies" or being against racism.