Comment by stego-tech
12 days ago
I never said it was an easy problem to solve, or one we’ve had success with before, but damnit, someone has to give a shit and try to do better.
12 days ago
I never said it was an easy problem to solve, or one we’ve had success with before, but damnit, someone has to give a shit and try to do better.
Literally nobody’s trying because there is no solution
The fundamental unit of society …the human… is at its core fundamentally incapable of coordinating at the scale necessary to do this correctly
and so there is no solution because humans can’t plan or execute on a plan
The likely outcome is that 99.99% of humanity lives a basic subsistence lifestyle ("UBI") and the elite and privileged few metaphorically (and somewhat literally) ascend to the heavens. Around half the planet already lives on <= $7/day. Prepare to join them.
I don't understand. In this hypothesis, in the elite's view, what is the purpose of the rest of society? If everyone has little to no productive output, why would they support us with a UBI? They could just hire whatever human skeleton crew they'd need to sustain their activities (if needed). The rest of humanity could be either mercifully left alone with absolutely nothing, or annihilated.
Humans are here to create the Training data to bootstrap the system
Luckily we’re already most of the way there!
Over half of the population has been instrumented already to collect all their behavior data worldwide
That’s been the goal: persistent collection of training data should come out of your day-to-day life in order to bootstrap the action systems that are machine based
The challenge now is that most of that data is based on actions we don’t want machines to do
I'm definitely making certain assumptions, such as: (1) democratic rule endures, (2) even absent true democratic rule, the populace can still resort to violent rebellion as a failsafe, (3) psychopathic tendencies amongst said elite are constrained enough such that mass genocide remains sufficiently psychologically unpalatable, (4) economic calamity substantially precedes the deployment of fully autonomous policing, etc.
How this all unfolds is absolutely path dependent.
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FWIW, you'd probably be able to buy a lot of goods and services for $7/day, if robots were doing literally all the work.
Agreed. The quality of life bar will be higher for sure. But it will still technically be a "subsistence" lifestyle, with no prospect of improvement. Perhaps that will suffice for most people? We're going to find out.
> if robots were doing literally all the work
Let me know when ChatGPT can do your laundry.
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