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Comment by sinuhe69

9 days ago

I'm pretty certain that DeepMind (and all other labs) will try their frontier (and even private) models on First Proof [1].

And I wonder how Gemini Deep Think will fare. My guess is that it will get half the way on some problems. But we will have to take an absence as a failure, because nobody wants to publish a negative result, even though it's so important for scientific research.

[1] https://1stproof.org/

Really surprised that 1stproof.org was submitted three times and never made front page at HN.

https://hn.algolia.com/?q=1stproof

This is exactly the kind of challenge I would want to judge AI systems based on. It required ten bleeding-edge-research mathematicians to publish a problem they've solved but hold back the answer. I appreciate the huge amount of social capital and coordination that must have taken.

I'm really glad they did it.

  • Of course it isn't made the front page. If something is promising they hunt it down, and when conquered they post about it. Lot of times the new category has much better results, than the default HN view.

The 1st proof original solutions are due to be published in about 24h, AIUI.

  • Feels like an unforced blunder to make the time window so short after going to so much effort and coming up with something so useful.

    • 5 days for Ai is by no mean short! If it can solve it, it would need perhaps 1-2 hours. If it can not, 5 days continuous running would produce gibberish only. We can safely assume that such private models will run inferences entirely on dedicated hardware, sharing with nobody. So if they could not solve the problems, it's not due to any artificial constraint or lack of resources, far from it.

      The 5 days window, however, is a sweat spot because it likely prevents cheating by hiring a math PhD and feed the AI with hints and ideas.

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