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Comment by Razengan

6 days ago

Gemini's UX (and of course privacy cred as with anything Google) is the worst of all the AI apps. In the eyes of the Common Man, it's UI that will win out, and ChatGPT's is still the best.

Google privacy cred is ... excellent? The worst data breach I know of them having was a flaw that allowed access to names and emails of 500k users.

  • Their SECURITY cred is fantastic.

    Privacy, not so much. How many hundreds of millions have they been fined for “incognito mode” in chrome being a blatant lie?

    • > Their SECURITY cred is fantastic.

      In a world where Android vulnerabilities and exploits don't exist

  • They don't even let you have multiple chats if you disable their "App Activity" or whatever (wtf is with that ass naming? they don't even have a "Privacy" section in their settings the last time I checked)

    and when I swap back into the Gemini app on my iPhone after a minute or so the chat disappears. and other weird passive-aggressive take-my-toys-away behavior if you don't bare your body and soul to Googlezebub.

    ChatGPT and Grok work so much better without accounts or with high privacy settings.

  • Google's most profitable branch is adsense, they don't need breaches for them to have privacy issues given that elephant sized conflict of interest.

    • This exactly! "Oh that gang of thieves that also sells doors has never had their house broken into"

      I hate how they insist on knowing everything I do all the time, but heavens forbid the minute I'm on a VPN or shared connection I have to do unpaid manual labor (100 CAPTCHAs) to train their AI

  • If you consider "privacy" to be 'a giant corporation tracks every bit of possible information about you and everyone else'?

You mean AI Studio or something like that, right? Because I can't see a problem with Google's standard chat interface. All other AI offerings are confusing both regarding their intended use and their UX, though, I have to concur with that.

  • The lack of "projects" alone makes their chat interface really unpleasant compared to ChatGPT and Claude.

  • No projects, completely forgets context mid dialog, mediocre responses even on thinking, research got kneecapped somehow and is completely uses now, uses propaganda Russian videos as the search material (what’s wrong with you, Google?), janky on mobile, consumes GIGABYTES of RAM on web (seriously, what the fuck?). Left a couple of tabs over night, Mac is almost complete frozen because 10 tabs consumed 8 GBs of RAM doing nothing. It’s a complete joke.

    • Fair enough. I'm always astonished how different experiences are because mine is the complete opposite. I almost solely use it for help with Go and Javascript programming and found Gemini Pro to be more useful than any other model. ChatGPT was the worst offender so far, completely useless, but Claude has also been suboptimal for my use cases.

      I guess it depends a lot on what you use LLMs for and how they are prompted. For example, Gemini fails the simple "count from 1 to 200 in words" test whereas Claude does it without further questions.

      Another possible explanation would be that processing time is distributed unevenly across the globe and companies stay silent about this. Maybe depending on time zones?

I find Gemini's web page much snappier to use than ChatGPT - I've largely swapped to it for most things except more agentic tasks.

> Gemini's UX ... is the worst of all the AI apps

Been using Gemini + OpenCode for the past couple weeks.

Suddenly, I get a "you need a Gemini Access Code license" error but when you go to the project page there is no mention of this or how to get the license.

You really feel the "We're the phone company and we don't care. Why? Because we don't have to." [0] when you use these Google products.

PS for those that don't get the reference: US phone companies in the 1970s had a monopoly on local and long distance phone service. Similar to Google for search/ads (really a "near" monopoly but close enough).

0 - https://vimeo.com/355556831

Gemini is completely unusable in VS Code. It's rated 2/5 stars, pathetic: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Google.g...

Requests regularly time out, the whole window freezes, it gets stuck in schizophrenic loops, edits cannot be reverted and more.

It doesn't even come close to Claude or ChatGPT.

  • Smart idea to say anything against Google here from a throwaway account, I'm sitting in negative karma for that :')

    • Anti Google comments do pretty well on average. It's a popular sentiment. However, low effort comments don't.