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Comment by rolph

14 days ago

silicon is not a dynamic structure, silicon does not reengineer and reconfigure itself in response to success/failure or rules discovery.

The atoms of your body are not dynamic structures, they do not reengineer or reconfigure themselves in response to success/failure or rules discovery. So by your own logic, you can not be intelligent, because your body is running on a non-dynamic structure. Your argument lacks an appreciation for higher level abstractions, built on non-dynamic structures. That's exactly what is happening in your body, and also with the software that runs on silicon. Unless you believe the atoms in your body are "magic" and fundamentally different from the atoms in silicon; there's really no merit in your argument.

  • >>he atoms of your body are not dynamic structures, they do not reengineer or reconfigure themselves in response to success/failure or rules discovery.<<

    you should check out chemistry, and nuclear physics, it will probably blow your mind.

    it seems you have an inside scoop, lets go through what is required to create a silicon logic gate that changes function according to past events, and projected trends?

    • You're ignoring the point. The individual atoms of YOUR body do not learn. They do not respond to experience. You categorically stated that any system built on such components can not demonstrate intelligence. You need to think long and hard before posting this argument again.

      Once you admit that higher level structures can be intelligent, even though they're built on non-dynamic, non-adaptive technology -- then there's as much reason to think that software running on silicon can do it too. Just like the higher level chemistry, nuclear physics, and any other "biological software" can do on top of the non-dynamic, non-learning, atoms of your body.

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Silicon is not dynamic, but code is.

The output of a silicon system that reprograms itself, and the output of a neural system that rearranges itself, are indistinguishable.

  • sorry, but you are absolutely wrong on that one, you yourself are absolute proof.

    not only that code is only as dynamic as the rules of the language will permit.

    silicon and code cant break the rule, or change the rules, biological adaptive hysteretic, out of band informatic neural systems do, and repeat, silicon and code cant.

    • Programming languages are turing complete...the boundary is mathematics itself.

      Unless you are going to take the position that neural systems transcend mathmatics (i.e. they are magic), there is no theoretical reason that a brain can't run on silicon. It's all just numbers, no magic spirit energy.

      We've had evolutionary algorithms and programs that self-train themselves for decades now.

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