Comment by jacquesm
1 day ago
AMEX, Capital One and Apple are not even close to the top of the list of companies that I would trust with my digital data.
1 day ago
AMEX, Capital One and Apple are not even close to the top of the list of companies that I would trust with my digital data.
Never mind the list of companies - I'd be very curious to know what the 'trust signals' are that would help you trust a company?
For hardware, I'd only trust a company if they didn't also have an interest in data. In fact, I'd trust a hardware company more if they didn't also have a big software division.
A company like AMD I would trust more than a company like Apple.
Decent management. A lack of change of business model, no rug pulls and such. Fair value for money. Consistency over the longer term. No lock in or other forced relationships. Large enough to be useful and to have decent team size, small enough to not have the illusion they'll conquer the world. Healthy competition.
Admirable, but short of a local credit union I used to use (which I am no longer with as they f'd up a rather critical transaction), I can scarcely imagine a business that fits such a model these days. The amount of transparency needed to vet this would be interesting to find though, and its mere presence probably a green flag.
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Are there any companies existing you would trust?
I honestly can’t name a single one I know of who could pass that criteria
Edit:found your other comment answering a similar question
the way they respond to security and privacy incidents + publishing technical security + privacy papers / docs
Good one, yes, that is important.
And do they approach Security as a Feature or as a Process. The fingers on one hand are enough to count them...
Apple = Run more commercials with black backgrounds and white text that says
SECURITY
PRIVACY
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Heyyy it never said "good privacy" perceive as you want...
Don't publicly acknowledge that you were the reason someone got murdered and 1000 VIPs got hacked.
One day when I'm deemed a 'Baddie', I looked at Apple as inspiration.
No past history of shady planned-obsolescence sprinkled in a bunch of their products, for one.
So that rules out Apple.
A leadership team that is very open and involved with the community, and one that takes extra steps, compared to competitors, to show they take privacy seriously.
Planned obsolescence tells me they don't make money on the daily use of their software and they need me to buy more hardware in order to make money.
I'd go for a co-operative ownership model rather than capitalist?
and make sure the member/owners are all of like mind, and willing to pay more to ensure security and privacy
Mondragon for IT... it's been my dream for decades.
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Co-operative will have significantly worse privacy guarantee compared to shareholder based model. In the no one company wants to sacrifice on privacy standard just for the sake of it. They do it for money. And in shareholder based model, the employees are more likely to go against the shareholder when user privacy is involved, because they are not directly benefiting from it.
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Jacques, do you mind sharing your list of trusted companies? Thanks in advance.
It's going to be pretty short. Proton would be there for comms, for hosting related stuff I would trust Hetzner before any big US based cloud company. For the AI domain I wouldn't trust any of the big players, they're all just jockeying for position and want to achieve lock-in on a scale never seen before and they have all already shown they don't give a rats ass about where they get their training data and I expect that once they are in financial trouble they'll be happy to sell your private data down the river.
Effectively you can trust all of the companies out there right up until they are acquired and then you will regret all of the data you ever gave them. In that sense Facebook is unique: it was rotten from day #1.
Vehicles: anything made before 2005, SIM or e-SIM on board = no go.
I'm halfway towards setting up my own private mail server and IRC server for me and my friends and kissing the internet goodbye. It was a fun 30 years but we're well into nightmare territory now. Unfortunately you are now more or less forced to participate because your bank, your government and your social circle will push you back in. And I'm still pissed off that I'm not allowed to host any servers on a residential connection. That's not 'internet connectivity' that's 'consumer connectivity'.
> I'm halfway towards setting up my own private mail server and IRC server for me and my friends and kissing the internet goodbye. It was a fun 30 years but we're well into nightmare territory now.
Every day my doomer sentiment deepens, and I am ashamed when I come onto here and see all this optimism. It is refreshing to see people whose opinions I have come to respect on this forum to be as negative as I am.
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It's all so tiring isn't it? It's become a meme, but everyday more and more, I yearn for living in the middle of nowhere, unplugged, with just my friends and family around. Very unrealistic, but still.
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Proton is quite a privacy washing front. Surprised than even in HN nobody check behind the facade what was signed.
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why the (e)SIM cars concern? i ask since the data transmission (bidirectional) can be used to justify lower insurance rates, for an example, than without that data.
( https://www.lemonade.com/fsd is an example )
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Proton? After the last two years of enshitification and purely revenue driven product decisions really?
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Mark, can you conceive that some people don’t trust any companies?
Yes, I can!
After reading Jacques's response to my question, my list got smaller. Personally, I still like Proton, but I get that they have made some people unhappy. I also agree that Hetzner is a reliable provider; I have used them a bunch of times in the last ten years.
Then my friend, we have to worry about fiber/network providers I suppose.
This general topic is outside my primary area of competence, so I just have a loose opinion of maintaining my own domain, use encryption, and being able switch between providers easily.
I would love to see an Ask HN on secure and private agentic infra + frameworks.
I’d be very curious what your list would be
See other comment.